Michael, Caroline Hicks, John Fleming discussed on Michael Berry
Couple of days ago, I received a video from a listener. And it was a segment that Jake Tapper had done. About having received a vaccine. And he was giving credit for the fact that this was a medical miracle that a vaccine had been created in such Record time. We've never seen anything like that. And and, of course, you know the FDA and everybody. I think prior lot of the protocols were stripped away to get this thing to market because the whole country wanted it to happen. But I don't believe this would have happened. In any other environment with any other president, and he gave credit to the company, the pharmaceutical companies and he gave credit to everybody else. And then at the end Grudgingly. He said, Yes. Even former President Donald Trump. Well. What the hell? This guy made it happen. He drove this buggy He whipped. He pushed. He gave no alternative and coming from a business background. He had an approach that no other president, all of them. Practically spending a good portion of their adult professional careers in politics. I think they would have accepted that it would have taken longer and he just refused to accept, he willed it to happen. Well. Back in October, There was an article by Caroline Hicks. That, said. White House Deputy Chief of Staff says covert 19 vaccine likely available By end of 2021. It was part of Operation works speed. There were some who laughed that this would happen. There was some who denied that it would happen, but very few people believe that it could happen. And guess what. We now take for granted. It did had we not been in an election year and had it not been President Trump been anyone else they would have won the Nobel Peace Prize. That Deputy Chief of staff is former Louisiana congressman and then assistant to the president for planning and implementation. And former and not former. Still, Dr Louisiana's own doctor, John Fleming, who is our guest. Dr. Fleming talked to me about your involvement in Operation works speed, including the president's expectation that we won't get this thing done quickly. And your understanding that this is not an easy thing to do, but Uh, well, Michael, Thanks for having me on if I could. I'd like to make one correction. You said that I said by the end of 2021. I'm sorry, 2020. Yeah, You're right. I'm reading it directly. You're right, So, but you're quite right. I've got the scars and the bruises to show that President Trump When you want something done it like speed, You move mountains to do it. And, of course, I mean that Tony and cheek Of course. Hey was he's a very Uh, really great guy. Toe work for full of grace. And I'd love to do it again sometime, but he definitely put the pressure on. So let's back up for a second. Remember of that. One of the things that That Donald Trump apart as a builder to develop her businessman in New York City, was he took on a new outdoor skating rink that nobody could get. Put back into action, and he did it in record time way under budget. That tells you something about the man and what he expects and what he could do. So when the pandemic hit very early on We own the, uh, the coronavirus task force. And inside the White House in the West Wing and so forth, knew that the ultimate solution is the president you and as the CDC, The ultimate solution was going to be immunizations. And while we needed to do many, many other things Like PPE, you know, protective things and ventilators and all that we must begin immediately developing a vaccine That is the only way we really stop this pandemic And so work was begun, however. Um, I'm not aware of any vaccine that was developed anywhere. Close to this. Maybe 2 to 5 years in some cases, some cases 10 years 12 years. And yet it was done in really up approximately 9 to 10 months. And so the question is. How did we do that without cutting corners? And the answer is very simple. Number one the technology and vaccines. His advanced tremendously and using the M or in a the messenger RNA vaccine, which modern ER and Fizer are Really helped things to make it fast and effective. That was number one. Number two. The president had the idea that we buy down the risk normally a pharmaceutical company Will develop the vaccine tested on animals, then tested on a few human subjects. Wait to see what happens on there will be very careful with dollar investment. Because many of these just don't work out and that money is wasted, so they typically go very carefully. And they wait until it's fully approved by the FDA before they even begin manufacturing and what President Trump said. And what operation Warp speed did. Under the tutelage of the coronavirus task Force, which I served owners, you say. Wants to say, Look, do it all in parallel. Let's do it simultaneously that pick six or seven great candidates of vaccines. Let's test um, but less manufacturing almost simultaneously and whatever the cost star will be born by government. And that was, of course. Developing the cares act that was passed for billions of dollars was spent to take away that financial risk for foreign pharmaceutical companies. So in the end the away that it was accomplished. Record time was to simply say, Look, Everybody get to work. This is going to be a public private partnership, and it was. It took the pharmaceutical companies with their industrial might and power and all of the innovation and intelligence they had. But it took government with its power through the Defense Production Act and many other things. To put the resource is in place. So it all happened, so neither one could have done it by themselves. But it was all under the careful watch. Of done Trump our president. I'm going to be up against a break here in just a minute. Dark Fleming, but I'd like to go through and get a little granular. As to this process kind of a timeline of that. I guess Fizer had the first vaccine that came to market but when you first start, you know you've got a virus in the early days. We didn't know that much. About the virus. You know we were developing knowledge is as we went along. I don't know what information you all have, presumably a lot more than the public did. But how do you begin the process of directing these companies and giving them some level of direction as to how to begin this vaccine. Order the or do you say come to us with ideas? What's the germ of that? Well, uh, specifically when it comes to developing a vaccine against the virus. What's important Is to get couldna footprint of that Carson again. That's another advancement we have over prior years. Remember that when we developed the polio vaccine, smallpox vaccine those things We?.