Tim Daniels, Grand Rapids, Nick Caruso discussed on Coast to Coast AM with George Noory

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Just like in a Twitter Tim Daniels reminds me that there are people who believe the whole universe is flat not just as a timber knowledge mentioned earlier in the hour about flat earth there's but at that Antarctica is a wall and the other planets have landscapes beyond that wall and all have their own ice walls all right and Hey Phil tower giving a shout out to grand rapids tonight along the coast to coast AM radio network standing by is Nick Caruso there's also a they also mentioned for you Nick on Twitter tonight somebody sent me the covers of of your book to pass this along so thank you and believe it or not is the new one the definitive field guide to earth's slimy creatures we were just talking about possums because I just wouldn't thought they would fit but you said it's really just the the front and the back at the end of the business ends of apart right yeah yeah so when they feel threatened it's an involuntary response for them to to play dad and it's accompanied by you know frothing at the mouth so they secretive extra wine we go live that just walks up and then they'll go to create this bottle smelling a green secretion from there Anil glam out of the I mean who would only eat something that's right all the awful life right so this theoretically of a of a fox or you know we'll for something more in the mood for some possum they come up to and they be like no thanks that's that's been dead for a while for I thought in your book other was interesting I didn't realize this that that possum females have jul reproductive tracks and that possum males are will be the way we would describe it bifurcated where they would like a like a plug into a wall the quick into both of those reductive tracks at the same time is that right yeah and it's one of my favorite next is that people thought that the male actually Maynard Webb her nostrils and she needed them to us how's your health probation happened and I guess they couldn't imagine a scenario where each their reproductive tract match I believe that's how my mom explained it during the talk but I don't remember my mind went blank it was so tell me what you're slime ratings like how did you determine slime ratings are so this was all my fault there Danny ramie alley and I and we got together and and discuss you know the characteristics of the swine is it are they producing this stop all the time or the just during special scenarios so we kind of made a a list of everything and had criteria for how we rank them and it was it was a rather involved process so this was but it was a process between us here as we are right we wish ourselves of the slime experts so over a couple of years well virtual beers she was in the U. K. this was all done online and are all we've we've actually never met each other shot all really how we don't we were still working on it one day yeah three books and you've never met note that so every day at least you face time or Skype let me do you know each other look like yeah yeah talked over Twitter and you know email and all that stuff so so I mean we we made it work there's a romantic comedy in that for somebody out there I'm telling you it so the but like the slimy assed creatures may be the ones that most of us don't know about maybe because they're in the deep sea and and the fact is the slime that is produced in nature tends to have a purpose right ambience not just they're doing it for sport or it's not that it has an evolutionary purpose right yeah and and most aquatic organisms have some type of slime and help them maneuver through the water more efficiently but then you also have the species like the hagfish that yeah when they when they get threatened they want to protect themselves they're gonna slime themselves and everything around them so that they don't get eaten yeah and and they do this I've got I've seen the bucket experiment thing where you put a bunch of hack fish in a bucket and then agitate them yeah it it never gets old if anything how much it can expand yeah I saw that on TV you want to live like that as soon as but then they're not the only ones because this summer what's the parchment worm is that what it's called all right Sir it's because that that's like when you're higher rated slime creatures yes so there are a warm there noticed how did you learn there which means they have a lot of hair everyone's better and there's there's a lot of different species some of them will create kind of like a you get that and that's how they tracked that floating by in making defeat everything that gets trapped in there the species that live in the DC that if they get attacked though actually make this file luminescent new case that they have shoot out on the predator and then the predator becomes visible and other things are more likely to eat that thing a great defense it it you know I mean we you like knowledge obviously you do in the book that humans to a degree you know when we're ill we create various things like snot for example but that's not the norm for us right it's most primates don't do if they involved out of the slime that was there ever a time in human evolutionary cycle where there is any archaeological suggestion that we were slimy here in the past I don't know the answer to that I would but yeah I would too but after reading your book I'm like well but if the whole idea is to evade or deceive well that's an interesting thing that we never develop that other animals do other and other for that matter other you know I mean like marsupials dead where they that's how they do but we never didn't seem like we went through that phase other than like a bad cold and you don't eat somebody's at about is like I have a cold well I mean I don't want to be one of the Natalie but yeah I'm not suggesting you but but if you were you would draw the line at somebody who's in in that place and so but I like I like it like how about things that are well the things that are living but we wouldn't they're not by people or anything like like trees and corals and stuff like that yeah so coral graves ample a slimy creature that they have a mucous covering on them so specially the species that live and title areas were gonna you know during low tide they might be exposed so that mucus can help protect them from drying out and that's let's see across a lot of different species that that's fine or new gets or some type of slimy covering can help species prevent water loss and that makes sense but then are there others that use that too is a way of are there any time are there any times that slime is used as not just a defense but an offense yeah yeah one of my favorites are velvet worms that they have these line can and on their face and that essentially acts like an untethered hose like if you ever heard of hold on for blacks and just let go that's what it looks like and they shoot this slimy sticky thread on there for a and it just immobilize them completely and I can just you know go to go to town eating eating there immobilized great so amazing and hippos I was surprised to see hippos listed as a chapter on slimy creatures I wouldn't think of a hippo is slimy shining but not slimy right yeah this is another great evolutionary adaptation so I'm gonna try this is by saying you know don't go out Robert half on you after I explained what they do because you might want to go do that so but hippos produce this pink sweat that is it helps protect them from infections so they you know Hitler they're very aggressive so it actually helps them keep keep infection the way but it also helps them prevent UV damage because and so they they out in the African sun on yeah longer so it's it's pretty incredible and and you know it's not quite like ours it's got a little bit more flying to it which one sounds better there's there's sensually secreting sunscreen are they happen to don't rubber have audio yeah and while yeah but then to that so you're saying that even because it you mention their aggressive so when they get in those battles they scrape each other all the time and this is what keeps them from picking up more infections from from from water sources which may or may not be very clean that they're exactly right but what are spittle bugs some insects that no feed off of plant sap and they make and their their their names which is between the largely on the at all well actually kind of coop themselves in this phone dot sap yeah and it's cannot hide them from predators and also doesn't taste good which is a common theme in the book it's amazing how many times we came across an instance where scientists who study the wind was like one minute faces and it's a fact yeah well it and there's a lot of things even just by the name of spittle bug I would want to taste I don't know why he would go I think I'll taste of spittle plug and see what happens but I would need about five thirty so he is known for you know so what are what are the most dangerous of the slimy creatures because like snakes are not slimy which we eat some people think of them as they are because they're kind of shiny again and they they are they looks you know when they move they come to Glen the light off of them as though they are but they're not so what's the most dangerous of the slimy assed creatures on on the planet I guess it depends on on who you are you know there there are some species of south American leeches that will actually live in the nose and miles of of mammals including US if you happen to go in the water yeah I yeah looks pretty terrible yeah really.

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