United States, China, Arne Duncan discussed on Coast to Coast AM with George Noory


No pretense or a little pretense of, giving power to the local level, Finland's close I exception but in places like Turkey Iran Russia China these places all have centralized. Minute ministries of education that she no qualms about controlling every aspect of, education, so US secretary of education Arne Duncan a few years ago said, we need to look to China as a. Model of of educational system because they, do really fantastic, on standardized tests they've got something called the gal, cow, which is college college entrance, exam and it's affectively. Determines which ten percent of Chinese students will go to college and ninety Percent of Chinese, students, won't go to college or at least good kind of colleges it's a very care middle structure where just. A very top are saved, and, everybody, else, is in big trouble and you, know from my perspective to gal cows an awful exam because it doesn't. Respect different kinds of intelligence that different skill sets that young people, possess and you know every year when the gal the results are now kids across China commit suicide God notion that. Much pressure yeah under pressure and disappointment, and disappointed their families they've lost, face in front of their friends and family and so you know it's it's it's crazy It's crazy and you know some pe- some people want America to, have that kind of system and I say no way you know there's certain, great aspects of, about America. And there things like freedom and diversity and, respecting lots of different types of ways of living and yeah no I I think, that I think the trend to. Make American education more like Chinese education is insane nNcholas tell me. About your thoughts about trying to game affi- education and turn everything into, a video game yeah so you see. This is with, the with the general trend to get students on computers for more and more of the day and it starts with kindergarten and one of. My classes at, Fordham I have students actually do the video games that are being, pitched to, kindergartners and they're very very. Simple, but one a fact is that, you know, puts teachers in the in the background and so in, some in some schools, there, they, are really Pushing the limits of class size because there's just one teacher and just a. A large group, of students, all staring, at ipads so that's one version of the education thing another is that people want to say that you can use games as a. Way to, measure, intelligence, and I don't know if you're familiar with this game four night but it's you know it's. Spreading, it's spreading the like wildfire among young people and lots of teachers are saying their students can't concentrate. In. School because all, they do is play fortnight outside of school and they talk with their friends about it and what it is. Is your you dropped from an airplane and with a lot of, other players in the goal is to kill the other players and you collect, weapons and you, devise strategies. To kill other people in the game Heather, teaching kids this well so they're they're not you know school to my knowledge is using this but Stanford just came out with this new, report sort of say hey listen you know when kids play they learned about angles and they learn about jumping you know when. They jump they have to figure out the. Angle so I guess you could argue that it's their learning math along the way and teachers can. Harnessed kids interest in fortnight as a way to to learn about, things and, they can, you know. Science or geography or something and came to, learning social skills by playing with other kids and point you want to say listen you know school is is something different, than playing video games and it just feels the lack of seriousness for my perspective about the education conversations. We're having in this country if you think if you think fortnight has educational value you've, lost sight of what, the value of education is we used to have a teacher, nNcholas that would love to, run movies, in class, and eight, up seventy five percent of his his, class Time, when we saw movie. I think he was show like three a, week out of, a, five, day schedule, I mean he, just sat back and we watched movies yeah no, yeah I, had I had, a similar experience and you know I..

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