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"I think the ever changing background is always going to be. It's going to be different. You know maybe some big radio DOT COM logo but yeah in General Ledger your topics. Let this stuff that you brought up five guys who under the most pressure now. That's funny because you're gonNA say pressure from you which I think well. There's contract con contract pressure. You have to factor that in guys entering into free agency. That's something that I don't think that you looked dat. Here's a guy who just signed for one hundred and thirty million dollars is the under a lot of pressure because he's just signed for that or a guy entering into free agency leander lot of pressure so we'll get into that that was a good topic and I love Your Zion Williamson because I'm all on but not the way that people wanna make out a superstar like he doesn't have to average thirty and twenty. It'd be good to me. He can be like fifteen and eight and have a huge impact on the game so let's start there scout because because we I think we disagree on Zion. We've had conversations about them before and this kind of stems from ESPN DOT COM at a list. Everyone's doing lists now. It's like you know it's the middle of summer the C. Seventeen so so there's a million lists out but ESPN DOT COM had a list of and they're going through their top one hundred players the NBA season and they had Zion Williamson has the forty second best player in the NBA which to me is pretty ridiculous. You and I disagree. I think on like what I think there's a lot of I think there's a lot of pressures I going into the season period just because the expectations I I think he's expected to be a star player. He's expected to be the best player on that team right away and I'm not exactly sure how his game actually fits in the League yet but on that list he's ahead of guys is like Damore to Rosen head of guys like Kevin Love and I just I'm just not ready to put Zay on in that group yet if does that. Are you ready to put high because I feel like like we're going one year. I still don't know what he's going to be in the NBA so you're telling me if you have one season you wouldn't WanNa Take Kevin Love Zion Dan Williams and right there. You can have either one of them. You wouldn't take Zion because you're intrigued by him. You you make the decision. Cerruti you love playing with your buddies and and all that stuff basketball agree so don't forget stats like you're trying to win you know. Kevin love has done for you and you have Zion Williamson Kevin. Love so you're saying he's not as good as Kevin Love. Who are you taking in wants to be honest now. Don't just say it because to two for your argument actually be honest and say like who you would rather have on your team for one season. I'd rather have Kevin Love or Marta rose and or or Klay Thompson guys that were all ranked behind Zayn Wolf Craig Thompson's injured list fair so so I'll leave it at Kevin love seven guys like the Marta rose and do. I think that they're perfect players. No I think they've got flaws. I think we kind of know who they are. At this point. I think Kevin Love is an okay number. Two Great Navy number three tomorrow's was in his You know he's an odd because shoot threes in a league that is sort of predicated on shooting threes of he's a little bit of an anomaly but I still think he's a good player and a guy that can win games and especially in that spurs system whereas you know we've had this discussion about the hawks in the past two because you're kinda high in the Hawks and think that they're going to win and I I just look at it and I go. I don't think young guys come into the League and are ready ready to play winning basketball yet and I think Zaylon. He's GonNa be flashy but I think it's going to take some time to sort of figure out where he is. We don't even know what positions Ions GonNa play yet. So how do I how do I project active as being a top fifty. NBA Player if I don't even know like what role he's going to be used in. I'm not sure what his shooting is going to be like. I don't know I don't know the Pelicans it's kind of strange because the Pelicans there's sort of a team that are looking to win now and typically rookies that get drafted they could drop it on terrible teams. Pelicans on our team so it's GonNa be interesting to see how they use him but I don't. I'm not ready need to say that I would trust him for a playoff run or something over a guy like Kevin love for one season. I need to see it I I. I'm just not I'm not. I'm not a blonde believer. Okay so the way I look at it is so where do you rank amongst your peers so to me. There's not a lot of guys like Zion Williamson. Just dre Mons like that back. You could say Al Horford like that. Blake Griffin is a little bit like that but the idea that you have a player who's super versatile. Oh he can play start at the four can stretch to floor. He can make plays he could drive the ball. You can post smaller guide could come in at the back of five and he's kind of a match up nightmare so I like that about the game of basketball now it's very different than what we've seen before with powers back to the basket or even he's not really even like a stretch stretch for he's like a play making four which those guys are super valuable in the NBA so then shifted over to Demar Derozan. Where is tomorrow Rosena tour three in your world. I think he's like a tube. But where do you put more Rosa tour threat. I think twos and threes like it sorta they they blend together. I don't think mark to more yeah. That's even better from an argument in if you if you WANNA say wing players scoring wing players where it is is to Marta rose in rank among scoring wing players top twenty top thirty yeah we're all into so Zion lives into me when you're talking about decision making bigs right. That's how I look at. There's all kinds of De'andre Jordan. He's a rim running big. That's one type of big big. Then you had the decision making the play through the conduits on off and more console to me kind of falls under that category of a guy who picks him pops or makes exclu- plays off the past so williamson is like that there are not a lot of guys like that so. I was picking a team. I Would Pick Zion Williamson and the reason either I pick him over. Kevin love is because of the LETTUCES I. I'm not a you're saying you're not a blind believer we'll have are you a believer in his athleticism. The schism over Kevin Love's for sure yeah for sure. I know one would not yet but the guys one of the the the guy is one of the probably top freak athletes. We've ever seen come into the league. I mean he's up. There was a braun as far as guys that are just special and have just you know superhuman athletic abilities. He is not a great discussion Cerruti. Where's where's we're not. GonNa go down because I'm down. You gotTa have a reason to the not like his game. What what part of his game okay. I'll say this I think thank you know. I think there's a lot I don't know what exactly he is. In the League athleticism scale you know this is great athletes that aren't great basketball players and I think a lot of people there were a lot. I think I think he's a I think he's such a great athlete that he's he's not. He's not going to be a boss or anything. He's going to be final figure out his way around the league but he's he's going to be a special star player and I think in a year one like you see you tell me because you're the guy that did it like what that jumped from college to the pros even if you're that dammit physically dominant just figuring out the game and knowing where to be in knowing your role especially on a team where that's that has expectations of winning. It's not like sound like Lebron went to the cavs and they were terrible. It was like they kind of figure yourself out for a couple of years. You know find on your way. Most rookies get drafted to terrible teams. They're able to sort of you know navigate their way. They're going to have the ball out. They're going to figure out things about the. NBA Where Zion is GonNa come into the League and we don't know necessarily what his role is going to be opposite holidays the best player on that team right now you know we don't know whereas I on fits in that mold and I have concerns about just again. What is his position dishes. Is he like you say Draymond Green. I think that's that makes sense. Is. He kind of like a blake Griffin Shawn Kemp Hybrid. I have questions about his shooting questions about. I mean he's a good ball. Alejandro was he a good ball handler. NBA NBA circles. These are all things that I don't know yet scout so I'm just not ready to put him in that category with a with two proven guys and you know to proven guys like Damara. Rosen and Kevin love who I know I know there are limitations but I also know what they're going to give me so I look at the game and the game is changing quickly and decision decision making power forward slash backup centers are more valuable than people are giving credit for so I don't need. I don't need to see him play to know that he's a good decision. I I'm not putting him in a category of Draymond Green draymond green is an elite decision maker Acre elite this decision maker but he's not Julius randle who can pass the ball at all so like everyone. I think kanter compared him to Julius randle like that is the earliest thing from the truth that he is not Julius randle. He is probably not as great of a passer as Blake Griffin but Blake Griffin struggles to move now compared to what he was ten years ago so I only is Lebron James's athleticism. So what does that give you every single night. That's a that's a presence on the defensive glass a presence at the rim. You can run the floor. You could take guys hit them spin and in now you can make a pass so like I bowed you that I value that skill set. I know the Celtics are going to struggle because Al Horford is not here any longer so because I value his basketball set and he's not a stiff athletically. He's a stud. I don't understand how he's not not. In the conversation for you. Say is ranked forty second like when you're saying that's high or I think are I. I mean you've got to be a topic the player in the NBA right now because he's a match up nightmare. That's what I look like. I was going into a game how how difficult would that matchup be to match up against Zion Williams's outlet schism decision-making ball handling forget the shooting that stuff would be very difficult to match I trump with. I think I think two three years down the line scallop. I'M NOT GONNA sit here and say he's not going to be a top fifty player. I think everyone has the expectation that he's going to be potentially a top ten potentially. MVP type player but I just don't like how many guys come into the league like that like there aren't very many guys that come into the League in a rookie even close to I mean if you're talking about the top fortyish fortyish players like that's you know that's I mean that's a that's an extended all-star. Essentially it's not a borderline Austar but like you know there's probably thirty all stars or so so you're pretty damn close to being an all-star your rookie year how how many rookies made the.."