Iran, United States, Washington discussed on Answers for Aging with Dr. Dan Solloway


For more news without the noise. My favorite story of the week has to be this human composting story Washington has become the first day in the country to legalize human composting before that, the only acceptable means of disposition of human body was burial or cremation. And now we have this income, natural organic reduction the process involves wood chips. It takes about four weeks and the yields about two wheelbarrows worth of soil everything. It's broken down even the bones Brendan Kiley. He's a reporter for the Seattle times spoke to us about this new alternative to burial or cremation. The first point is at alkaline hydrolysis in natural organic production, two separate processes alkaline hydrolysis. They've been trying to legalize that for the past few years in Washington state, and it's legal in some other states as well. But here, it got tacked on our what got added was natural organic production or colloquially known as human composting. And so this process, I think the easiest way to think about it is like a urban crematorium except using the slower. Composting. Decomposition process instead of the faster flame process, we do have green cemeteries in Washington state, where people can be buried without without expensive caskets, and so on. But this being one site where bodies would go in and human remains come out, is totally new the idea in the United States specifically, how does this work. I just seen what chips straw and other materials. So what do they do to naturally, decompose the body that way? The dates back a little bit a few years back to something called livestock mortality, composting, which is something farmers. And ranchers began to experiment with researchers as well and found as a and environmentally friendly means of decomposition of large animals and found that one could with the proper mix of starter elements, the right area, managing it for the right temperature. Could reduce fifteen hundred pounds steer into totally clean. Usable nutritionally rich soil in about a few months. They ran tests research program at Washington state university with human remains people who were terminally ill and supported the project and wanted to donate to the research and found that using a similar process human bodies could become vet kind of clean. Rich soil in about four weeks. Yeah, it is pretty quick, and that's bones and all it requires, again, the right starter elements, the right to keep the microbes happy, and it's relatively speaking less odorous than people would think if the microbes are really happy and working really officially, they do their work quickly and they don't produce a lot of that off gas odor that we associate with something Roddick because that was one of my questions. What about the bones? Obviously, they're, they're tough to break down. So I didn't know that even in that short of time you know, four weeks. It's pretty quick. The bones. Yeah. And again, it's a little different than just a green burial where you dig a hole and lays someone in just a cloth, shroud, or something that process of decomposition takes longer, because the conditions are different, but the right temperature moisture the rates starter elements the process moves pretty fast. Now traditional ways of disposing of the bodies cremation usually burns to full SUV tank's worth of gas. They say that emits two hundred fifty thousand tons of carbon into the atmosphere each year traditional barriers, the body is pumped full of embalming fluid, obviously skits. All of these measures slowly decompose the body and it produces a lot of methane gas, things like that the traditional ways environmentally are not necessarily the best was this Bill introduced specifically to address those issues it was, and it was one of the founder, Katrina spades main divisions when she grew up in a farm in New Hampshire or fathers pirates physician mother was a physician's assistant environmental activists. So familiarity with. Life death composting new growth, plants and animals. That was all part of childhood coming up. And when she was studying architecture, she was thinking about death modalities what we use to deal with human remains and wondered if something more farm, like might be good both environmentally and two people stays if people don't want to spend a lot of money on tarnished. Caskets blind with expensive cloth and it'd be embalming process and all that kind of thing. So this is Katrina vision, and state senators and the governor agreed was simpler, less expensive less complicated. More natural more environmentally friendly option for people's remains after they pass away Katrina Speights. So she's the developer of the urban death project is she the one behind this recompose company, who's going to be building kind of these new burial, plots for this. Katrina spayed nonprofit called urban death project. I think around twenty fourteen and began the process of talking to scientists and attorneys and death care experts from around the country. A lot lot on the west coast and formed a board and they moved into a four profit model. Small business model to have recompose and now that the legislation passed and the governor has signed it the next step is for them to develop the rules, necessary with the department of licensing, all that kind of stuff and finding a site and start building, you know, when people get cremated oftentimes they spread the ashes, maybe their loved ones favorite place. Loved ones are allowed to keep this soil that has made body would create about two wheelbarrows full of soil, and you can take it to a home guard in wherever you want to put it to plant a tree plan vegetables. So that's kind of a cool notion to read the life out of somebody's passing as well. Well, that's absolutely a case. And part of the attraction behind him as to one older gentleman, who's a big supporter of this from Washington. There's been a career nurse. All his life working in intensive cardiac care units vision is to have a memorial treatment of something that you can hang a swing on, and maybe grandkids, great grandkids down the line could swing on and have his body come nourishment for that tree itself. It would be a living testament him as opposed to, to a headstone in a cemetery. Now, the next step is, I guess, to see if other states will propose similar bills. And, and see how this takes off across the country. At me, it sounds like there's some interest bubbling up maybe a little bit, Massachusetts, and Michigan Joshua Slocum of a funeral consumers alliance at New England certainly knows about this, and this following this people are quite interested in this is a relatively simple viable alternative to what we've done in the past Brennan, Kylie reported the Seattle times thank you very much for joining us. Thank you. The other top political stories of the week are the increased tensions in Iran. President Trump warned Iran, not to threaten the US again, or it will face it's quote unquote, official end that happened. Shortly after a rocket landed near the US embassy in Baghdad around quickly responded with a hashtag saying, never threaten an Iranian, the US deployed bombers in an aircraft carrier to the area. And Iran is increase its uranium enrichment production. We spoke to hall Tuesday, foreign affairs. Correspondent at politico for more on these rising tensions tens kind of back and forth right now between the Iranian leaders and President Trump on Twitter feed, and it's very strange because President Trump recently has been trying to calm things down. He has said things like I want you to call me. I just want to talk to them. He has flat out said he does not want to go to war with Iran. And yet he puts out this threat out there, and maybe it's because he was sitting there thinking you know what I need to be tough again. I can't seem like I'm coming across. But when you say something like this is going to be the official end of Iran. That's a pretty loaded statement. And it actually offends a lot of Iranians, including like ordinary Iranians that the Trump administration says that they want to support Iran is a civilization. It's been around for thousands of years, so saying that you're going to officially end. It is quite the claim and I think he might have undercut himself with a lot of ordinary. What started all of these tensions, because we heard that there might have been some Americans that were being targeted. That's why the president sent over some bombers carriers to the area. But did all the stem from us being pulled out of the Iran nuclear deal? Really been building up for month to month the United States pulled out of the Iran, nuclear deal impose a ton of these sanctions, damaging your aunty Konami, and then recently United States, Trump administration announced it was going to declare a major piece of Iran's military as a terrorist group. Now, the Iranians you know, they've been still sticking with a nuclear deal, but recently, they said, they are going to take steps to reduce their commitment to the deal. They also pretty upset about the terrorist nation of one of their major military units. And so this has just been a situation where now they are apparently, making moves that the US feels are threatening. Whereas there's also the argument that the US has making moves that the Iranian steel are threatening. And so it's kind of becoming the question of the chicken or the egg, which came first threat came first, and which one is going to lead to what running officials have said that they've quadrupled their uranium enrichment production, there uranium that they would not would still be enriched, only to that three point six seven percent. Limit that was set under the nuclear deal, but they could go beyond their stockpile, limitations pretty soon. How does this figure into the whole discussion hoping to do is they've given the Europeans and other parties to the deal, like Russia and China couple of months to find ways to ease the economic suffering that they are facing right now as a result of US sanctions? So they said, look is to help us get out of this economic otherwise, we're going to start walking away from the deal and enriching uranium and doing other things that puts them in violation of the deal because the way they run is look at it is, look, we signed up to the deal, saying, we would eliminate our nuclear program, so that you guys would lift economic sanctions that were already earlier and start economy would improve. It's become a very one-sided deal. And I just don't see how the Europeans are going to be able to pull together anything that helps you wanted to kinda me in the next sixty days. I just don't understand how that's going to happen because European governments cannot force their businesses to do business..

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