Harold, Dreyfuss, Dreyfus discussed on Celluloid Junkies Film Podcast


Was going to ask you because I. Think your answer is the same as mine. What is your favorite moment or scene or sequence in the film? I don't know if mine is the same as yours, my favorite. In the movie I have two of them. The first one is when Harold also what she was forty four when she was politically active and she says Oh. Thank Issue Liberty Rights Justice. Kings died kingdoms fall. I don't regret the kingdom. Sense Borders and nations patriotism. But I miss the king. And, my other favorite quote at it's much deeper than just the quote is when a herald watching the sunset over the ocean, and seagull flies across, and she says. Approaching Devil's island that he could see the most glorious birds many years later in Britain. He realized they had only been born. Neither of those are what I would've guessed just quickly on that last one. How do you read the scene at that quote that comes off? The Herald has just seen the imprint on the inside of her wrist. She says he's seen her tattooed from the Nazi concentration camps. That's right and I think dreyfus was persecuted. Yeah, he was a Jewish French military officer who was falsely convicted of treason in eighteen, ninety four so well before the wall, and he was sentenced to life imprisonment at Devil's island, which at its worst, a death rate of seventy five percent June to the notoriously harsh treatment of detainees. But in nineteen seats he was exonerated, and he was reinstated to the French army so obviously just prior to relate in that story, and saying that I will always be glorious Birds Herald seen that Tattoo and see goes. Actually universal symbol of freedom. So. More tells. This story is a way to kind of Harold minded as about what he has. You're saying the though in the movie. You don't see more of. that. Harold has seen her tattoo, but she she says this story is a way to kind of his monitors. Ease and say that she is essentially free from that pain of the past that she remained free throughout you watch the film and you don't know who Dreyfuss is, and you know he's history and you don't know that. Her referencing him is a way of highlighting the perennial nature of discrimination, and whether or not it happened in the forties in a concentration camp, or you know a hundred or a thousand years before that in some other place against some other race or ethnicity. That it's just something that perennially exists in the world. The same to me I. Think is beautiful because we don't know him more history. Really we only get kind of snatches of a, but obviously once we see that Tattoo. We know that she has seen and experienced horace. And the way that it, Shaw and you see the birds and hear them you hear that story and you think they really are beautiful. And of course we all see seagulls. Every day we will pass them. We don't notice them. We don't think of them especially when they are a symbol of freedom, especially when they're flying across the sunset like that so free and so. I guess is carefree when the person viewing that is in a situation in which the locked up oppressed, and we often use our baggage to excuse the fact that we miss simple beautiful things in the world. So I guess for a woman of her age, and with her experienced to sit there and just recognize them, and then we get a moment with them in the film is just incredibly touching that there's this person that. That doesn't miss any of these little tiny miracles happen every day in nature I think that's one example of what you're going to probably say. Is your favorite scene? Yeah, so my favorite scene is when they're discussing what they would like to change into once they die, and she says she like to change into a sunflower because they're tolan simple like you Damian very, Tolan simple Who did you marry keys obsessed with some? Is is very simple. But powerful says that he'd like to come back as daisy, and we get this shot of hundreds of days, and she asks why he wants to come back as a daisy, and he says because there are all alike, and she points out that often not. Look Shame Some small some of Fateh. Some grow to the left some to the right. Even lost some. Kinds of observable differences. You see Harold. I feel much of the wool. Sorrow comes from people who this. and. Allow themselves to be traded as.

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