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A. dot com or call one eight six six Venus fly that's carnivore a dot com or one eight six six Venus fly call us today welcome back to coast to coast AM Richard Serra coming to you from Toronto in depth radio news talk ten ten and we are speaking with David Brody about his latest treasure Templar a the nights in his Templars in America a series and before we go to the phones couple questions I got this on my Twitter Jeremy wants to know if you have found any information David about a Louis Mueller of Georgetown New York and possible ties to the Templars he is somewhat of a local legend in the area especially concerning a hidden treasure much like oak island on his old state so that's in Georgetown New York David is Louis milieu Mueller ring a bell at five in a write it down right now and check it out as soon as you're done I'll move Mueller in Georgetown I've never heard of that Louise Mueller M. U. E. L. L. E. R. and that's in Georgetown he's a bit of a local agent interesting all right the the judge the judges panel that once key right that's the one that really holds the the the clues that's the one yes and I'm not sure I'm not sure to be honest Richard why that's the one that people focus on it may be that so the thinking is that the judges are watching the temple are it's just the way their range of panels are arranged in the temple ours are watching the holy grail in many many people think what could still use of the holy grail so if you follow the temple as the lead you to the grail so that maybe the thinking as to why the judges or the the the the the panel that everyone thinks is is is the secret maps are are there are there not photographs of the of the judges said the just judges panel or any or any depictions drawings so there is a photograph from the early nineteen hundreds of the panel and that's what has been you so you can find it online and then also in after the panel stolen they hired a as our expert about cater to actually afford your final to paint from the painting a new panel and so that's the it's so the replacing panels what is on display now it's saying bobbles cathedral in dance so that the black and white photographs and then about color reproduction again neither of those is the original and so is do you suspect we know whether the original is still out there is it in a private collectors hands was or was it possibly destroy no one sure I mean again and no one knows where it is one theory is that it really is a map of the holy grail and that a local group of Freemasons the lives has custody of it as a way to keep treasure hunters away from finding the holy grail and that they still have the other to this day but that's just a theory and what about the the the long held theory that oak island the the money pit our hope is that the resting pace place of these these unimaginably priceless treasures right so the the oak island possibility I think that pertains to the Templar treasure the sickly other gold and silver I I I don't believe that that something like the ark of the covenant of the holy grail would have been buried in a hit on an island off Nova Scotia has temporarily but I don't think that the final resting spot for a religious artifacts but it's entirely possible that treasure tempat treasures in a little sense worse secreted adult island in either are still there or and this goes back to an earlier theory that I mentioned were retrieved in the seventeen seventies and used to find the American revolution all right I would pick up on that point later let's go to the wildcard line Mike is in Denver Mike welcome to coast to coast AM good evening gentlemen I thank you so much for taking my call David I'm a big fan of your work in your book I wanted to get your opinion on two movies surrounding the next the Templar treasure the national treasure with Nicholas cage indeed if they cheat codes now in the debate G. code they talked about the knights Templar treasure being more of a spiritual treasure in the sense of the bloodline of Jesus Christ in in protecting that treasure in itself in also I want to get your take on the rumors of the eighteen Kampar ships they would miss teen and if the carrier groups on the treasure could possibly have been located on those ships thank you Richard Mike thanks for that eighteen missing Templar ships about with that is on on Friday the thirteenth of October thirteen oh seven that's the day that the king of France with the with the ascent of the pope rated the Templar treasury and I love the temple ours that was in Paris one of his motivations the king of France was the old account part a lot of money and so what better way to get rid of your death that they get rid of your bankers so he raided the treasury in Paris expecting to find the Templar treasure when they got there it was empty is is is it in less than one of the reports is that the cab plus have been forewarned and that their treasure went out the night before and ended up at a port named La Rochelle and that eighteen Templar ships sailed from La Rochelle which is on the western coast of France probably up to Scotland and that that that was the first resting spot of the Templar treasure so that and so you know if if if the treasure have to go someplace okay and it wasn't in Paris when when tell us about the king rated as the the the treasury sells yes I have to go someplace and and Stalin seems to be a logical spot for it to end up because at that time Robert the Bruce control Stalin he had been excommunicated from the church he was not beholden to the pope and so that makes sense as as it as a destination and I forget my first question Richard you remember what it was about the something to do with a national treasure the movie national treasure and the da Vinci code he also mentioned the Vinci code all right at it so so that divinity code that's so that's the same question a wheel what was what was the treasure was it something spiritual or what the something physical my sense of it is when you're talking about the holy grail that is something spiritual as opposed to something physically in in a sense it's a kind of knowledge or secret that's my sense of what it's always been more than what Hitler believe which was some kind of magical as an object of some kind that we thought it was a metaphysical type thing a spiritual secret more than something that is actually a chalice of the holy grail in Hitler got his hands on and I like to think that his just like in them the raiders of the Lost circumstance we just melts the moment he he clasped it in is this filthy paws let's say hi to Jeff in Sonora California west of the Rockies Jeff good morning good evening welcome to coast to coast AM dear dear name fascinating serves our growing I was one of the picture Mister Brody's ran a little bit about view topics maybe knows about him since he's written so many novels would you happen to know more detail about the subtext and its relation in dating back to Akhnaton well so you're talking about so all this research and I'm very familiar with it and and and and you know Scott makes a point in in his book which I believe is entitled Akhenaton and hope that five of them having not exactly right but the the the the hook in the the how can flail the cooking for outside that that we see often times for trade in in Egyptian iconography looks a little like the whole taxes got that traces of what that's all the way back to the mystery schools of ancient Egypt that one point Jesus study there and that's what sort of place connect the dots with that hope that going all the way back to the ancient mystery schools earlier I talked about the Duke of Burgundy being part of a sort of a continuum of of members of society wealthy members of society who investigated and were students of the mystery schools of mysticism of the secret society and again that traces way all the way back to the the mystery schools in Egypt that mac guy the the the the druids of of blasted out east the the the British Isles yes Scott traces that whole look that's all the way back to I think you need to thanks for the call let's say hi next to Wayne is in Toronto or hear my backyard Wayne good morning welcome to coast hi there wing pretty good how are you terrific thanks you're on with Dave Brody go ahead I went hi David I was concerned with the fact it seems that no one ever mentions some the brothers of Jesus what about their lineage since the marriage of the lamb is controversial yeah you know one of one of the possible lines of the brothers of Jesus and and you know I'm not mine expert on this so pardon me if I'm saying things that are not be right but I believe one of the lines traces to Cleopatra's liner merges with Cleopatra's line in northern Africa and one of the mysteries that that Smith forming around for almost generation now is the burrows cave mystery in in southern Illinois and there's some researchers who believe that the the the explorers who came over in in in in you know long before Columbus who came to southern Illinois this would have been in the first or second century AD from northern Africa and secreted objects thousands of artifacts in a cave in Illinois that that those people were led by Juba Jay you be a king Juba who was a descendant of the lines of both wanted Jesus is brothers and Cleopatra there's a fascinating tie in there I don't think that means your question but that's the one that's the as the popped into my head we were talking about the siblings of Jesus and their offspring thank you for the call I think that's kind of a a Protestant conceived the idea that Jesus may have had brothers I mean that the term brothers that used in the Bible it brothers is kind of a loose my understanding anyway Middle East got people often refer to brothers it could be it could mean a cousin it could mean a close family friend but then the other thing the idea is that that his earthly father Joseph had children before he married merry and so that those would have been his half brothers by units and it helped me out to identifies your sort of extended family some male names that would have been his cortical brothers as well you touched on Scotland and this was one jurisdiction that was welcoming to the Templars so how does prince Henry Sinclair fit into all this right so the the the time the scholars so thirteenth early thirteen hundreds of templates route law they have to flee a bunch of men up in Scotland probably with their treasure at that time squall was at war with England and you all many many lysis or seen.

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