China, Pakistan, Catalina Martinez Chorale discussed on BBC World Service


Free. Three women jailed for total of thirty years after being accused of aborting their babies. The women say they suffered miscarriages, but were convicted of aggregated homicide, the Central American country has some of the world's strictest abortion lose as you may note, today's International Women's Day competing ac- that the story illustrates how women confined themselves behind buzz after suffering complications during childbirth. I've been speaking to Catalina Martinez chorale, she's from the center for productive rights, how has been pushing for women's release. And she was there when they walked out of prison. We had the chance to to speak with them today was a very important. They actually we were all outside that jail waiting for them their families their daughters had that having seen their moms for for many time. Now, how'd you think we'd cope to jail time? Of course, having a spending nine almost ten years in jail for a crime that they didn't commits has in fact in them their lives. They they are happy, of course to be freed. But the thing that the long bus east ahead of ma'am for a full recovery. What happened to them? How do they end up spending all the time in jail? So the three of them Hoti still burns, which is on obstetric emergencies. And because of that they were accused on charged with aggravated Tommy side why because we know salvo is hilarious one of the six countries in the region that has a total criminalization abortion, which means that we meant cannot access abortion. Even if their lives on headline dangerous, and because of that Dixie style lot of stigma around the adder and Medica. Professionals are not allowed to work where when Mormon arrive to host because looking to healthcare after having any kinds of upset you ca- -mergency, for example. Doctors kills them in violation of the provisions secret and the persecution begins at that moment. And after that women have to face some navigate three jetties celsius them that he's full of of stereotypes. So if a woman was giving birth and she good complications in a village somewhere and the baby died. And she went to hospital what would happen to. Well, doctors will accuse them because they will be afraid to be persecuted. So the doctors you're free to be prosecuted. Yeah. And so they'll report it to the police. Yes. The woman. Well, the the women have to face a judicial process of your arrest. They are arrested. Of course, they are arrested on yard sent to jail with sentences solve their years. That's just crazy. A lot of people listening to this think that the go to jail, and what sort of treatment is given to them when they get to jail by because I'm sure the women's prison they go they go to women's prison in prison is not easier. Actually, they are seen as martyrs that killed her babies because that he's a this oppose the alleged threes on why they they are there, and they are very discriminated by by the officials in the prison. And also by the other women in terms of numbers of women were affected by this. Would you put it out? Well, I can I can talk for the Bengal prison that is the present water. Where is more women that we are representing where what I can tell you is that when we began our work with local partners in health salvatore's five years ago, seventy we men were imprisoned for these same circumstances. The number have been in elevated to more than thirty over the years now to lay in Bengal prison eighteen we men remain in jail for the same circumstances. Catilina Martinez corral from the center over productive rights. She's now Hello and sideways that well whose only previous African Champions League appearance was over twenty years ago likely to be the first team in this year's tournament to guarantee a place in the course of finals Algieria CS Constantine only needed draw against club African later to make the last eight with one group stage game remaining Leonov messy is back in the squad for the first time since the World Cup, but Sergio guero and Gonzalo equally still on not they play friendlies against Venezuela and Morocco. Cricket fans will remember the scandal dubbed sandpaper Gatewood balls were tampered with by Australia during a test in Cape, Tamil, Australia. Just announced a squad for their one day series against Pakistan and neither Steve Smith, nor David Warner have been included despite being eligible for the final two matches of that when they year long bands for their part in that scandal end, and it's been an outpouring of sympathy towards David Rhodesia. After the death of his Father Daniel ship was an Olympic relay silver medallist in the one thousand nine hundred sixty eight games he died in hospital in Kourou Seventy-three and our condolences thirty SHA family worse. Thank you very much. Indeed. Let's get some business news now when you think about the Chinese economy in terms of growth record or otherwise. Well, in fact, China just reported a twenty one percent plunge. In exports could the slowing economy beefing thing shares on the business, they help us here in this gone. The cost of production in China is going up cost of production in China has gone up to produce in parts of Africa than it is in China. Eat meat. Maybe they already have the infrastructure in China as well. Lot of this is more of a demand side story. There seems to be slipping off in customer demand. We can see that. Because exports sank twenty point seven percent. We were expecting a full, but this was four times bigger than anyone had anticipated. And we're also seeing that imports are falling as well. Which indicates that can she was just simply aren't buying as much stuff imports fell by five point two percent. Chinese stocks were already under pressure on Friday after the European Central Bank yesterday, stoked fears of global economic growth is revealed plans for fresh stimulus. So I spoke to Jeremy Thompson cook whose chief economist at wilt, I I of anytime you look at February data out of China. You have to realize is the Chinese New Year lunar new year holiday, you tend to see declines. But obviously as you said four times analysts expected either means the analysts got it wrong with something very very rotten within the state of the. Chinese exports data and probably it's probably a bit of both to be honest. If you blend that's number with the January number and look at that against last year's figures. It's down about five percent. And that's probably in keeping with the rough expectation of just how much the global economy and sunny trading conditions of weakened since this time since this time last year so imports as you said a little bit weaker as well, the Chinese economy is probably weaken the where it was this time last year. But also, the main customers are China, US and Europe are also decidedly weaker as well. So the figures aren't as horrifyingly bad as they would. I do the headlines would first appear the still not good though. So what's happening internally within China either? You saw a huge output over the course of December and January so people Chinese exporters, for example, pushing stuff out of the ports as quickly as possible to try and avoid this March first potential trade tariff deadline, which is obviously now been extended. So maybe that showed that the figures coming out of China. Towards the end of last year were artificially high. So obviously, we're seeing a little bit more volatility in the numbers internally, and you can't really pick through Chinese trade data that easily that don't release the internals of those numbers. So you have to as a lot of guesswork when it comes to Chinese data. So you have to look and say we are starting to see a slowdown within this whether certain sectors within this automotive, for example, construction starting to starting to slow down power generation may also be slowing down as well. And that will those thoughts may bear out over the course of the next couple of months, but I would say this is more a global story than a Chinese domestic story in the moment. Thompson cook their chief economist will I Mr. Hampshire, we thank you. Now. Listen to this. From video filmed Israel, Pakistan back in twenty eleven it shows two men dancing us for women seeing a wedding song. But this led to the mother of the women in a so called on a killing and they believed to have been killed by male relatives who thought the bringing your family into distribute. Now, the man at the center of a campaign to expose this. Notorious incident has himself been killed have cell Kohistani was shot dead in the northwestern city of butter bad in on Wednesday night. He spoke to BBC just last month. Salga shuttle. Seven years after the murder of these girls. The government has accepted before the supreme court of Pakistan, the girls who appeared in the coffee. Stan video we this before in every court and institution since then this crime was covered up I appeal to the authorities to provide security for me and my family, and I demand the culprits are brought to Justice. So that in the future the lives of the women. Of course, Don I say now to discuss all this. I spoke earlier to shun Salah who didn't from the center for research as acuity studies in Islamabad human rights organization in this country have been lamenting this particular case because this man despite having no resources having no money and not really having his voice heard by both the state institutions as well as union rights organization is fighting endlessly for it. So as far as the urban centers are concerned as far as liberal media is concerned. Of course, this is cause for much concert. But you have to also understand that it's very easy to sort of paying this in in in in the light of these are honor killings and happens at far-flung areas. Establishes when the fact of the matter is that the reason this is happening in rural areas in these remote reach is. Because there are several other factors that go into it, their social cultural factors, their religious political factors. There are certain gender role expectations in interior sink. In jury KP that lead to this kind of behavior. In fact, I would say a few years back in two thousand six there was a Surrey of very widely quoted survey conducted within the city of Islam about English respondents fifty seven percent of them half male half female actually endorsed these killings as a way to restore the family so widespread from what you're saying their position. I it seems like it's a problem that is can be found in in any puddle Pakistan than any part of FOX like I said, it's it's a it's a much bigger problem in remote regions. But the problem here is that it it's the mask uperior motives within this larger structure like a lot of times this happened because of allegations of pre or extramarital relations or relations or liaison or dressing inappropriately. But in certain cases, for example, it's the several of family feud, it's because Amelio has access the property that the male once and that can very easily be honor killings can be very easily us. To mask those properties. But does that make it more difficult to prosecute these cases? Given the fact that there might be other elements to it. Of course. I mean, the problem there are many problems, of course here. But one of the major ones is that there are parallel Justice systems. Right. The Justice system, the Justice conveyor belt in Boxton is very very slow. There are one point nine million cases in courts these systems these Jirgas that actually sentenced these men and women to death for bringing dishonor to the family is that peril Justice system and exists because of a weak rule of law and be because certain areas of our stunned actually have just access to that Justice system this position Salaheddine from the center for research and security studies in Islam abroad. Jonah domestic.

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