Blair Bercy, Producer, Burt Reynolds discussed on She Kills

She Kills


Welcome. I'm Adrienne Barbosa star of the fog, Creepshow swamp thing, the convent just a name of you. And this is she kills a shudder original cod cast where we sit down and discuss all of the things we love about the John ra- that has given women some of the most iconic roles in film, history. I've had a fair amount of experience with psychics and the spirit world, a psychic told me I'd be dating Burt Reynolds two weeks before we met and fell briefly in love. And by grandmother was psychic she read Turkish coffee grounds and she knew things before they happen. And I'm sure she was responsible for me. Getting my first job on Broadway. Even though it was after she passed from caretakers to demented, babysitters, too protective mothers to the vessels, for evil a woman's work is never done, common themes of guilt, and sorrow or. Processed onscreen through the trope of female ghosts, but never with males spirits. We called up my friend d Wallace star of cujo the Frighteners and the howling and you don't know this, but I do a couple of roles that she took right out from under me to speak with us about her work within the afterlife. How there are no such things as evil spirits, and her current career in healing. She talked to us from her home, in California, amidst the backdrop of a very real horror, the Wolsey fire, which had just started at the time of this recording we paired her up with horror fan host and show runner of this very podcast, Blair Bercy. My name is d Wallis. I'm an actress I'm an author. I'm a healer. I'm speaker. I'm a great mom. And I'm Blair Bercy. I'm a host, and I am a producer of this very podcast. Most people vividly. Member watching their first horror film, probably through covered is my first horror film was Halloween. I'd never seen anything before that not even psycho. And I saw Halloween on the night that John carpenter, the director and I announced our engagement when it was over my two friends turned to each other and said, we can't let her marry him clearly Halloween made an impact on them. But we were curious to know which horror film, made the biggest impact on Blair and d for me, the horror film that had the most impact and also about vengeful spirits would be Namur on elm street, specifically dream warriors, because it, it showed me that horror films can be funny and edgy and FREDDY Krueger probably, I think, has had the most impact on my love of horse simply because there's no escaping him. He is the big bad that you cannot run from because everybody needs sleep. So Fred, he's gonna get you regardless of where you are. My first memory of horror film was not when I particularly enjoyed I was I was very squeamish little girl, and we were not allowed. I was not allowed to watch anything scary. So, of course, my older brother, had to babysit me one night. And he put on the bride of Frankenstein and. I got to sleep with my brother for two months because he led me. I was certain there were monsters in my big walking closet from the minute, we moved into the house. No wonder, you know, all those fears transfer really well into my acting into horror films. The horror film. I think that effect has always affected me the most won't there's to the exorcist and film called don't look now with Julie Christie and Donald Sutherland and. You know. I think it's the, the psychological part of not having control that fears me the most, and I'm watching right now, the hunting and pill house because Henry Thomas who who played Elliot in is in it and. It's freaky -cially a nerve ING watching watching this the series because it, it combines that psychological weakness fear uncertainty with true horror, which takes time to create relationships. You know, I think we're. We just got into slasher films and slasher films. Do not represent true horror films. And. So it's interesting that, that I do all that on the side as well as a lot of run of the mill films have three family films coming out this next year also, but it's always interesting to me that I do the horror films on the horror side. And then I also help he he'll people or teach people to heal themselves from the fears of themselves and of their lives. So it's a interesting dichotomy in a way, but also just kind of the flip side of the same coin. You know, I'm living in Los Angeles right now, right after the shooting, which was less than two miles from my house, in cal- in well outside of Calabasas. That's a much bigger horror film than what I would have to sit in the theater, and help myself get past so d-. I find it so interesting that you've had this huge career from heartfelt films like ET to heartfelt films that are freaking terrifying like cujo, and now with your career, and healing and kind of getting people to bridge loss, and the afterlife is there anything that is too scared of watches there, a film that is just off limits to scare you won't do it. The only movie that, that I've done. That's really, really hard for me to watch, and I don't revisit very often is the hills have eyes. Yeah. First of all, it has a dog I love dogs. And of course, cujo is all about a dog. But could you have to be my favorite film that I've done, but the hills have is, is just crosses that really. Gruesome line for me. I mean, I think it's wonderfully done in who knew all those years ago when we were just going. I. That it would still be cult film that people were asking pictures for, you know, crazy this business, but yeah, I would I would have to say it would be that one of my own film. I ask that for that exact reason because I had a friend, I was telling him that I was doing the show, and we both had the same experience whereas much as we love horror that one is too hard. I wouldn't even watch like any, the remakes, or anything about it. Because after seeing the original it, it that was the worst thing that, yeah, it's I, I don't think I've ever been camping in an RV. I just there's a list of things that I will not do because of that movie, of course, for those of you that are reading frightened from the hills have eyes, just picture, all of the cast staying in one motorhome and the bathroom breaking. So, that'll give you a little inside. Into our own personal. Hell went through shooting that. Yeah. That does make it less scary. I will say that's a little. It makes it adds a little humor to that. So we're talking about the haunting of hill house earlier. You mentioned that I finished it was wonderful and that series. Particularly is just full of vengeful angry female feminine energy, and spirits that are here to kind of dismantle and haunt because of what they have been through. So I'm curious to see your take on vengeful female spirits, and kind of that anger bring being brought into the afterlife. You see this is where the two sides of d come together because I know from my hailing work that I mean I talked to people on the other side guys. So I know that there are no spirits, out to get anybody there. They're evil doesn't work that way, evil comes from. Being limited in a body and the fears that you create from your own perceptions, and focus energies, just energy and energy may absolutely try and reach you to communicate with you. I mean, I talked to Christopher my late husband quite a bit. Not like we're talking, but he reaches me through music and signs in the house that I know correspond with him. But I know in my heart that there are not energies out there to freak you out or to harm you in any way. And that extends into the alien world also. Okay. So then the Mike follow up question with that because I feel like the representation film is I can think of ghost maybe for a soothing spirit. That kind of makes you feel gives you a little closure, but also that, you know, the person is there with you. Why is it then that I guess with horror we stick to this? You know, the ghost is the boogeyman all the time. Why is that such an easy? I guess, kind of Goto why I think ghost being a boogie man is an easy Goto. Because that's the way it's always been way. It's always been, that's way. It's all the Disney films, right? The heavens horsemen you know their bad guys. That's win. An again, anything that is out of our control is a boogeyman. And so what better boogie men to, to try and go out and fighting conquer than those that we can't see that we have no control over that we can't reason with right? And so whatever we plug into within ourselves just grows and grows and grows and. Manifest more fear. We lose more control. So we direct a lot of these fearful things because we're in fear to begin with, and we believe in them, and it makes good movies. And most of these movies, by the way are done by guys. Yeah. Yeah. That is exactly right. And that brings me to a good point that the, the fear that the I think this big bad or the big scary thing that, that seems to be the trend now is the vengeful kind of female ghost the woman that had her kids wrongfully taken away from her or killed or was blamed for something that she didn't do or was told that she was crazy and, or a witch, and that's been the big bad. It seems slightly empowering to see kind of these big scary female characters. But at the same time, why is it always the representations? Always of somebody that had to this horrible trauma, you know, because I think guys that the principle that love conquers all eludes most men. You know they're taught to go to war. They're taught to fight for their woman. Pull out their gun. You know it's. It's very connected to their Dicks. Really feel like for these movies to work, there has to be authenticity to the fear. There has to be something real. There has to be some real nece to at all similar to everyone has brought up throughout the show. Shelley von the shining for many reasons her fear is palpable in believable in real. So my question to you is, as an actress, where do you pull from her? How do you kind of craft that authenticity to something that could seem on paper, kind of flimsier not believable, my purposes, an accurate is to always make the character finnick? I won't do it. I won't do a character if she's not if they don't allow me to do her that way. And yeah, I've fought a lot. I said, yeah, I know you, you need more nude people in the handling, but I'm not doing it. And, and I know the foreign investors want a bunch of women hanging over the banisters with bare breasts. But I haven't in my contract that no additional nudity would be added. And that's why and. You know, also I have to say, like when I looked at cujo I didn't look at cujo as a horror film, ever. I looked at cujo, and especially my part as. As the protrayal of mother, who would do anything to save. Her kid anything, and I can tell you, I did it before. I was a mother. And now that I am a mother, I would not play one moment of that differently. I would do anything to save my kid anything and I, I think most mothers identify with, that there was a part in ET where sorry in cujo where, you know, Danny's screaming. I want my daddy daddy, and I grabbed him and I see. All right. Don't get your father. Right. And Dan Blad our incredible producer came to me. And he said, d we saw the dailies, and I want you to look at this scene, because we're afraid. That people won't like you if we include this scene. And I went in and watched it and looked at him. And I said, Dan, if you take this scene out, you're crazy. There's not a parent in the world. Who hasn't been at that brink of? I'm going to slap the shit out of you because I can't help you. That. Yeah, that's absolutely true that my mom, once again, my mom doesn't do horror has seen cujo. And I think it resonated with her just as a mother of somebody, you know, adopted, a daughter and really wanted a child at that movie is about the, the will, and the persistence, and what things that you can do, when you know that this is life or death..

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