Rice discussed on Serious Inquiries Only
Fact that our conventional wisdom comes out of materialist science material science would say that consciousness exists in the skull. It is a function of brain function, and there's no possible way that consciousness could travel outside the skull. But here's the thing. Materialists science, neuro science has told us precious little about what consciousness, even is material. Science tells us a lot about how neurons work about how neurotransmitters work about brain structure and function. But we have yet to see anything from materialist science about. Consciousness itself, the nature of it, where it exists, what it is. And so it's a bit premature for us to be able to make a conventional wisdom statements that say, this is impossible because we know consciousness exists in the brain the brain alone and can't cross any other barrier. That's that's, that's really an assumption, but it's not a truth. It's not something that we've seen verified by science because science has yet is unable to observe a thought, an image in the mind. Materialist science is based on the ability of multiple observers to observe the same phenomena and replicate and observe the same phenomenon replicated across different locations in laboratories. The problem is consciousness so far has only been observed within the private space of each person. And as such materialists empirical science has nothing to say about that about nothing to say, but it does sound like a hard problem. But I have one thing I want to say is I want I want I agree with in in my opinion anyway, agree with what you're saying that I don't think materialist science in this way could ever rule out the fact that that consciousness could somehow reach out of our own skulls. But I, I also think in my experience every time I hear scientists talk about this, they tend to frame it in terms of, well, there doesn't seem to be any evidence that consciousness could be anything other than what's going on in our in our brains. You know, it doesn't. It seems it seems like an absurdly to a person. It seems like an absurd thing to even have to qualify in that way. But I think they do go out of their way to say that often. And also when it comes to materialism, it's not as though materialists reject like, I don't know quantum entanglement or something. Right? So it's not like. It's not like you don't like it when you Hyatt to consciousness. Well, yeah, I guess that's true, maybe, but it's not as though materialism would is some sort of religion that couldn't be modified by some scientific explanation of what's going on. Absolutely true. We take for granted that there are invisible forces like gravity. Those are of course inferred by data. We don't see gravity k. We can't measure it like consciousness. We can't measure it. We infer it. We infer that consciousness is is a function of brains and neurons. And we do experiments where we where we show how stimulation of different parts of the brain or impairment or damage to different parts of the brain seems to correlate with changes in consciousness. But correlation is not causation. Rice don't know where consciousness lives and because materialism's. Says that everything is reduced to pieces to Materia. We have yet to see how Materia and the subjective experience of consciousness. How on earth they meet or interact. That's the hard problem of consciousness. If you begin with materialism as your basic worldview, the hard problem of consciousness staring you straight in the face, right? Some of the pushback were getting is because materialism is considered to be the true worldview. And yet as you point out, there are some things from quantum mechanics that look really funky when it comes to classic materialism, and there are things within consciousness that seemed to defy materialism and material science. All I'm saying is when I read this study because I'm interested in consciousness because I work with people and their consciousness. And because I, I'm engaged in trying to understand what. Consciousness is in how it operates. This study caught my attention because it does seem to provide empirical support for the idea that consciousness is not bounded necessarily within our skulls within our neurons..