Spacex, Don Kessler, Nasa discussed on This Week in Tech

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About other things. With a SpaceX thing to their credit, I interviewed Don Kessler for he of the Castro effect a few years back. And he was like, SpaceX are actually pretty good about it. Planning to deorbit this stuff. In a way, in a way that in the way that many national governments aren't. But I'm totally with you on this. The amount of problems this is causing astronomers and the potential problems if it all goes wrong. Somebody needs to stop and say, look, have you really thought this one through other than with your own company's interests? Well, we know. NASA has said the International Space Station is going to D or D orbits the word they use. Sometime in the next ten years, probably 20, 30 or later. But they learned from skylab. Remember in the late 70s? Skylab started orbit started to decay and then nobody thought about it. Nobody planned. All they could do was let it crash. They figured, well, it's mostly water, so we're probably all right. In fact, question Australia. But that's another story for another day. I think they learned the lesson. And so now there is enough juice to deorbit it in such a way that will crash into the Pacific. I think you're about to say what I was going to say. There's an effort to clean up space to me. Is that what you're going to say, Andy, and that the U.S. is very far behind. We put up a lot of junk, but we've been really bad about taking it down. We're number one. So I know that there are private companies that want to go drag some of these space parts into low orbit so they supposedly burn up on reentry, but if that sounds like a bad plan too. Well, I think it was a business, right? Somebody's a British company is proposing a giant. Giant space net. It's the removed debris satellite. And it's a giant space net. It's actually been deployed. To capture space junk. It's from Airbus. Thank you very much. Combining the cutting edge bus technology to unprecedented aerodynamics. For years now there have been satellite China started launching satellites I think in 2016 that have been testing, grappling, grappling features, so that it can actually interact with other satellites, move them into different orbits, pull them out of orbit and necessary. And a lot of the a lot of the conversation has been, oh, there's going to be new wars in space in which we attack each other's satellites. I know that and I know that's actually a likely possibility and the grand scheme of things, but also this is a necessary technology. We need the ability to simply say, when there's a conflict between two spacecraft, one of which is derelict, we need an ability. And we need an ability to deal with it, that doesn't simply come down to the spacecraft has to get out of the way. What was a two or three years ago where there was another incident I wish I could remember the actual details about the air force that was tracking all this information basically gave a warning to the operators of one spacecraft that look basically about to crash into something else. And because there was no specific no chain of orders in place to say that look, if you are operating a spacecraft, you have to have somebody Manning a station so that if we send you this warning, somebody gets it, somebody puts it into the right hands and you take action. But unfortunately it's sat in somebody's inbox for three or four days. And a certain amount of emergency action had to be taken to avoid a crash that would have put a whole bunch of new debris into space. Isn't that the plot for the movie gravity, Sandra Bullock? Yes, exactly. They get hit by a space debris. Oh, if I have to film drives me nuts as a space geek, it's just like really, you can transfer orbits that easily just use it but anyway. But it is a massive problem. Sandra Bullock, she can do anything. Yeah, well, it's not as bad as Armageddon, which rumor has it is still shown to potential NASA employees to find out how many inaccuracies you can get. And the record is, as I understand it, is a 167. Oh my gosh. You're clearly having screen space camp, which I saw with a bunch of hilariously bad polytechnic polytechnic university. Is now at the top of the don't watch list for me. Doesn't it? From what I hear from a lot of people, it's bad and it's crazy, but it's like national treasure level bad where they know that they are going nuts here and they're leaning into it. And if only they had Nicolas Cage in there, then the people would understand, okay, look, we know the science here is wonky. We're just having a good time here. The same plot, isn't it, although this time it's the moon, not an asteroid, right? True. Yeah. This is the moon breaking up. This one that I seem like a Patrick that seemed like a Neal Stephenson plot. It's a movie where there is a line. I need you to help me get in touch with NASA. Right now. The moon is out of orbit. Yeah, it's got a twist. The moon is not what you think. It actually have seen it. And I interviewed the director, Roland emmerich, this past week, because he's the guy who wrote Independence Day. Yeah. And a bunch of he's done a bunch of movies. And it is ridiculous. I've seen so many bad reviews, and yet I really want to see it. They tried to explain it. Don't watch the trailer. It's a spoiler alert. I'm not going to say anything. Connie now I understand what you're talking about. What he did 2012. The film. He did the day after tomorrow, which was the climate change one. Yeah. Yeah, okay. Yeah, okay. Well, 2012, which was a why did you see a film? Let me ask you, and did you see in the theater more to the point? No, no, no. I had the opportunity. I get to co host a podcast for CNET called I'm so obsessed. And we talked to actors, directors, other creative types. And I was able to screen it. Ahead of time and my living room, and then I talked to the director Roland emmerich. Wow, nice. A couple of days before it was launched. Good stuff. Yeah, I mean, I'll watch anything. Because it's stuck at home with anybody. You know who's a success is the 19 year old teenager Jack Sweeney, who tweets the location of Elon Musk's jet. Which he points out on his Twitter feed is completely legal. Elon, the like it so much and has offered him all sorts of things. Jack says I want a car. It started as a hobby, and I don't want to let go of a hobby for something that's not going to really change my life. I don't have a car right now. It would be great to have a car and a Tesla would be really cool. Absolutely Elon blocked him. Well, Elon said it's a security issue. I guess it is, but it's public information. It's all in the public database. So Elon apparently offered him $5000. Now I should point out Elon Musk is the richest man in the world with 224 billion. If I already Jack might be insulted by $5000, a car wouldn't be too much to ask. He also tracks the private jets from Jeff Bezos, Mark Zuckerberg, Bill Gates and Donald Trump. Follow him on Twitter. Elon can I say that if the guy is smart, he'll ask for electric car that's a little bit better made than a Tesla. It's employees a little bit. That would be the height of irony is to say, Elon, I want a car, but anything but a Tesla. So those panel gaps, I just can't. I don't want to be made fun of it cars because little break. Oh, no. I'm going to make you take a break. Go have some Marmite or whatever it is you British people. That's very nationalist of you. What is going to eat a Twinkie? If I'm going to eat the.

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