The Chronicle Of Higher Education, Adolpho Guzman Lopez, University California System discussed on Reveal

Automatic TRANSCRIPT

Of color. Many more low income students. Many more first generation students meeting their parents didn't go to college. These air all groups, these are all demographic groups that higher education. Has and I think this is an indictment of higher education has done a horrible job it serving Adolpho Guzman Lopez, who covers higher education in the public radio station KPCC in Southern California, says In the last few years, the nation's most populous state had been struggling mightily to meet the needs of its students. And in the last maybe three or four years one of the big public policy issue, especially in the Cal State's In the community colleges and to an extent, the university California system. Was the significant number of students who were having a hard time. Paying for food and for housing. I mean, this discussion about homeless college students and students so going hungry, so there was a big push there when covert hit the fragile finances of many students were shattered, so students who had jobs and we're balancing, you know, going to class and holding down jobs. Many of them lost their jobs. Many of them had to, you know, dropped their classes in orderto get another job in order to support their families put food on the table, so they've set their their studies aside. Which brings us back to the fall of 2020. Fall. That isn't how it was supposed to be. Ah, follow in colleges and universities that were already facing rough seas found themselves in the midst of a tsunami. Higher costs fewer 18 and 19 year olds and that increasingly troubled match between who they Servan who most needs their help. And Jeff Selingo, the former editor of The Chronicle of Higher Education, says colleges that needs some degree of stability keep finding stability is slipping right through their fingers. I don't think anyone pictured That back in, You know, March in April that we would be online for the fall. And now, Of course, everybody's just talking about the fall. Not a lot of people are talking about the spring semester. So it's his idea. What I think is most painful right now is that we tend to be doing planning in week long or month long or semester long segments, and I don't think that's the smart way for hire it to move forward. Through this pandemic. A somebody who understands this industry. Well, who's looked at it for a long, long time. Do you think what we're looking at? Here is the beginning of lasting changes. Or is this like a blip? Is this okay? It's six months. Okay? It's 12 months, but But back to business at some point If you would ask me that question A couple of months ago, I would've said it was a blip. Now that we are getting into a new academic year here, and that many colleges, universities are either going to be fully online or mostly in a hybrid form. I think this is it going to be a bigger change in higher education. I think largely now technology is going to be a force to be reckoned with. In higher education. I think that most particularly 18 to 22 year olds see their world in a very different way than college leaders. See it. Meaning that they don't see a separation between the face to face world that they live in every day and the online world that many adults see they just see a kind of fused together and I think that's what we're going. That's the lasting change I see coming out of this is that we're going to move to a world where we don't see online and face to face education. As two different things but much more of a hybrid where students are going to be mixing and matching between that physical experience that we are so accustomed to, and the online or digital experience. Well, it's interesting because you do have schools where kids have moved back like they are in dorms, or they are in off campus apartments. But they're just sitting in those dorms and on campus apartments, taking online classes because the people who teach the classes maybe or the school, doesn't they? They don't think it's safe for people to like. Go to a lecture halls. But It's interesting, because I mean, in some ways, I do think kids know the difference like they know it's kind of hard to go on a date online. But they know where they know The difference is what matters face to face and what doesn't and I don't think college leaders know that so they're largely going back to campus because there's that coming of age experience. Where are the clubs? The activities living with somebody and dining with somebody participating in sports, right? They know those things have to be done in person. But what they don't think necessarily has to happen in person or at the frequency that it happens or classes. Right. There's a lot of stuff that they could watch. In fact, we're already seeing this on college campuses. This idea of flipping the classroom where they would watch videos or do other things in advance and then show up in the physical classroom. And that's where peer to peer learning or group learning would happen. Discussions would happen that are better face to face instead of just seeing a professor lecture to them, And that is the difference here in what's interesting to me is that we're seeing all of these students flock back, Tio. Try to live on campus and take online courses, run, even live off campus and take online courses. Because what I think they're saying in that action is that we value the coming of age experience, but we don't think it happens inside the walls of a classroom. And that's where I think college officials think it does happen. And in fact, that's what I think they think they're charging tuition for. So we actually tracked down a bunch of college kids to get their thoughts on what's happening..

Coming up next