Francisco Cantu, Stetson, Ok Corral discussed on The New Yorker Radio Hour

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Late. Abram. Our first stop is with our two local friends Francisco Cantu, and Karima Walker. They wouldn't pick their brains a bit about the towns. We're going to visit the next day. Very good. Thank you. Wanna beer? They live in a small job, a house full of books implants, sit around the kitchen table. Francisco was a border patrol agent for a few years, and he wrote a book about the experience called the line becomes a river. Yeah. I was I worked for the border patrol for three and a half years from two thousand eight until two thousand twelve. I think the most harmful part of the narrative is this narrative that the people that you're encountering are criminals rises as narrative criminality when you're at the academy like all these encounters that you have, like pose a danger to you, and like the first primary preoccupation from the beginning of an interaction until the end of an interaction is like your safety as a good guy versus this bad guy. You know, but I think like the huge. Golf in that narrative is that most of these encounters like they're not criminal encounters. I mean, the vast majority are humanitarian encounters right like these are encountered with refugees, not criminals, most of the time. Grateful and somewhat relieved that Francisco has agreed to come with us to tombstone tomorrow as a Mexican, and as a woman, I'm a bit nervous about driving into these towns and being so close to the border. Early next morning. The sun is already strong. Baseball, or like little fedora hat or. The Stetson you wanna wear. Stetson. Pass. We set for tombstone Francisco at the wheel and pike recording in the backseat back. We're going to talk to re-enactors at the OK corral. It's the most famous reenactment in town and features some legendary.

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