Sallie Hicks, Hicks Sally Sally Cob, Hicks discussed on TV Literate
That's the thing that's my biggest beef is that he wasn't doing it for that. He might do it now because he somebody pregnant and he was like. Oh you know what I can just adopt this baby out. No problem to say Yeah Stillborn. Yeah and then. He realized he could profit from it too because he was just selling these babies charging for the abortion. Yes yes so that's cool. Yeah it's that it really is like it's all about his intentions intentions. Were not good. That's I mean clearly. It seemed like there was plenty of evidence to suggest that he was inducing. Labor's early and that he and I think that that was probably in the guise of. Hey we're gonNA give you a late term abortion but then they would have babies that were four and five pounds which is won't baby was like three and a half pounds. Yeah that's crazy like having a baby. That's four pounds in. Twenty twenty is not a good thing. Obviously there's plenty of medical intervention elements. But it's still not a good thing. So imagine it back in the nineteen fifties and sixties especially with a doctor who is obviously negligent and doesn't care about the baby's well being to begin with I mean W- so we're told that two hundred at least two hundred of these babies were adopted two families but those are only the ones that survived. And how many of them did not survive. And how many of them went without birth certificates and how many of them. The number has to be astronomical. I I mean it has to be so much more than two hundred Yeah I think. The total confirmed number is two hundred twelve as last article. It was written about it. But who knows? I'm sure they'll be more journalism about it again soon. Which was good. Because that's how you find people and get them to do their. Dna tests to see if they are familiar matches. Yeah there was a sentence one of the. I don't know who it was. Who said it but somebody said about Dr Hicks that like this man obviously didn't count on DNA being because that's really what's gotten everything. I'm sure to be so much easier to find information like obviously there's nothing you can do before. Dna there's no way they would have been able to find any familiar matches without DNA. So I mean that's an and shows that there's hope that maybe more information will come out in the future once there's more scientific developments that's cool that's cool to think about. Yeah so they started off this whole season series with Standing outside the Hicks Clinic as it is now. I'm sorry for how hard I laughed that. It's a pizza place like this is the old Hicks Clinic building and it's like fresh spicy. Yes that it's like. This is where he would perform the abortions. It's like here's the pizza oven. Somebody comes out with the big lake dumpster bag to go throw away. They're like that's one of the babies came out weird. Yeah I don't. I don't like thinking about that no pizzas. I wanted to talk a little bit about Sallie Hicks so she was pretty big part of this. So sallie Hicks is doctor. Hicks is granddaughter but She was adopted because Doctor Hicks is daughter-in-law could not have children and it is kind of thought that that the adoption process somehow kind of sparked the idea or at least gave him. I don't know some type of experience with the adoption process because that's kind of when everything started which is so crazy to think about well under remembering from Sally Hicks. Didn't she say that they're that? Her parents were offered another baby right before her and then they got her like by him so there was like that probably like Steven or something right. Yeah Yeah it's yeah because I think Stephen was the oldest sir baby the first baby. Yeah sorry so Hicks Sally Sally Cob. She had like a two different. She had several last names. She's not she she was. Yeah I I've liked her a lot and I really respected her for what she had to go through being has she literally had her father's body exhumed and her forty one years and just to get DNA to not only see Not only DNA for the other Hicks babies to see if maybe they're related because that's another thing is a lot of people think that Doctor Hicks is the father of the lot of the babies so she got for that but she also got data because it was kind of suspected that even though she was adopted that maybe her adopted father was also her biological father because they looked a lot alike which they did like the pictures. They did look a lot like. It was weird. I'll white people kind of look the same but so it ended up not being her biological father which was kind of heartbreaking to watch because I think she really kind of had her hopes up that it was but I don't know I think honestly I feel like that would make things more confusing just to find out that biological father would feel like I'd rather find out that he's not since that was what you've been told your whole life and you don't have to like be like why did he lie to me and tell me that. I wasn't his rate which I think it's a lot easier to deal with. Oh they're just adopted me and loved me and they're good at the same time. I do understand like being adopted. I'm sure it's hard to not have any blood relatives and to want to have that so I do get that. She probably had hopes up for that. Just kind of CETERA. One step back so now. She has to find whoever she is related to exactly. I think that would have haunted her if she had not done that. Oh yeah definitely but I thought the whole body exude. What does it exist today. That exhumation exhumation body exhumation was insane. It was awesome. I loved it I thought like I said I just have a lot of respect for sally even doing that but then she was even considering being there. I was like the fact that you even consider that. Like you have some balls because I would be like if people were digging up. My Dad's body. I'd be like okay. I'm going to be like in the next state you have. I also three weeks. Yeah exactly That was that was crazy though. And he was like so well preserved even though he'd been buried for forty years and bombing back in the seventies eighties goes the seventies. Yeah I that's creepy to think about but it was really cool. It's really cool to see cool cool to see the process because I never really done any research about body summation so well if you ever get down to. Youtube whole asking. Mortician is great for all off. That sounds fun. She is really cute. La Like alternative mortician so she does water. Burials and stuff like that. Not just casket inbox. But yeah she's a great watch. That's cool. That sounds fun. I'm going to have to watch that. Yeah and she's not like overly graphic or like gross or anything she just tells it like it is. That's good I like that. Yeah so sally. I'm glad tangentially to sally that whoever they believed out who was actually related to Doctor. Hicks that. She thought that he was her dad. Y- was actually heard. I was so happy that because I don't know it. Kinda seemed when because not only did they find not only do they not find the biological match between Sally and her dad but they also none of the Hicks babies that had been tested matched either and it was kind of felt like a dead ended. I felt like everyone was kind of disappointed by the results so I was really happy to find out that they at least found some conclusive evidence. Like I'm sure that that woman is so happy to have like to know. She's been wearing her whole life. Who are data is and now? She knows and that's amazing. Though at the same point in time that it makes go officially related to Doctor Hicks. Which I think is was kind of the weirdness in the last episode where they were talking where they were getting all their results. And they're like you know I kind of wish that he where my dad but also? I'm relieved that he's not your at least. I'm not like you're back at square one but at least I don't have any genetic material from terrible man. Yeah I men are the worst. Oh sorry this. Is this every episode of the worst? But you gotTa do better if you don't want to be the worst. It's a common theme in everything we see in do because it's just the it's just the truth. Men think that they can do whatever they want and that they have the right to do whatever they want to and with within and out their bodies yes and time and time again it just. It doesn't go well. Okay so I think my favorite character of the entire thing. She was in the first episode. Not ever again. Oh wait was it. Hold on let me see Lacey Lacey. I have vowed to Doris Abernathy. Ho Ya Abernathy. The ninety year old town historian and she was just pleased as punch. She was my queen like she is everything to me. She was so excited about her. She's yes like John is not. She knows everything she's like. Yeah anything you need to know about. Mckay's will I got it. I know it. Here's she was like so happy and bubbly and she's just so cute. I loved her and she liked kept up on everyone like ten live anywhere there anymore. Like she lived in Murphy North Carolina. So like she knew she knew she knows. She's the vault. I have so much respect for her. She's so good she was. She was my favorite character sue. Good I'm glad because she was just so adorable and I loved her and she was just so like enthusiastic about history she was. Oh do we WANNA talk about how they broke into a mausoleum to? Oh Hell Yeah. So not only did they dig up a body but they also broke into a mausoleum which the mausoleum didn't have any bodies in it. The bodies of Doctor Hicks and his wife and maybe some other family members were buried right next to the mausoleum and it was thought that there was some like birth records. Some type of paperwork of the Hicks of Doctor Hicks in the mausoleum and so they had originally got a search warrant for it back in nineteen ninety seven when this whole thing broke open but they only could open the doors they could not get inside the crips and so in the show because Sally I guess was the only remaining family member. She has the right to open the Access. Yes so she went in there and they didn't find anything except the search warrant in the crypt. Yeah that was weird. Because like she like. I remember the taped to the door. And that's pretty typical for a search warrant Lincoln Emory place. It's just taped to the door. And like how did end up inside? Yeah if they weren't able to get into the crypts than how did it ended up inside the crypt? Yeah I think some they were like kind of trying to imply that like maybe they were in there again and they took whatever was in there because there was literally nothing in there and then she shut down by the Tennessee police. That was interesting it was. Yeah but I I mean I don't really know it doesn't really seem like I don't think of kept record exactly. That's what I'm saying. Do cared well. You did nothing in an official capacity. Why would he do birth records that? I think that you can get caused exactly right. This lady had this baby is sold for one thousand dollars. Yeah I would. I would think that he would prefer not have any birth records just so there's no way to tie it. Altogether so yeah. I wasn't surprised that they didn't find anything but I thought it was. It was fun breaking into the mausoleum. Oh Yeah it was just. Those locksmith. Dudes had the best time into it. This is a really hard luck. Holdouts pending this is strong medal. It's been trying to get everyone impressed by them. Opening it was cute. God I had to.