John Horn, Andrea July, Spike Lee discussed on 1A



Films like this, You know, In a lot of ways, this is a very new kind of film. Like people won't admit it, but we're not used to seeing ourselves in our full complexity and having our inside conversation he told to the outside world. Andi. I think that's part of why people are upset about it, but they may not be consciously aware of it. And then I think the other thing is I thought his internal as depression like, you know, it was conscious that Vanessa Williams with the light skin woman, right, who was propagating Eurocentric beauty standards, and I personally I'm so glad I didn't want Any white women to take screen time from all the people who were there because it was like it wasn't about them. It was about how we've internalized. Those messages not saying that we're to blame for it. But you know there is Internalized repression is damp, You know, wrap rampant. So, um, I think it's a combination of both. You know, just the context into which the Hollywood context intuition movies being released, but also just the way that black people will suffer from the damage of All this internalized repression. Well, John, is this a movie that would have been otherwise released in theaters if it weren't for the pandemic. No, definitely. I mean, it's you know, and I think it would have found an audience. I mean, I think that's one of the strange things about the times we're living in that, you know, no movies are getting released theatrically. And now so many things are getting released on streaming services that has actually become highly competitive that Disney is putting a lot of it's movies on Disney. Plus Universal is putting a lot of it's movies on Premium video on demand channels. I mean, you know, AMC, the nation's biggest movie theater chain, might go out of business on the next couple of months. They've run out of cash, so Yeah. I mean, this is a movie, and not only would it be a movie that should be in theaters. Watching this movie with an audience would be a lot of fun because there'd be a lot of talk back to the screen and I think, and there was when I saw it in part City at the Sundance Festival. But you know, that is something that is going to be missed. It's a kind of film. I think that would play well with the group. And I'm gonna come back to like my takeaway. I'm gonna quote Lena Way through is in it, she says it's a story about the adversity black women face. In the workplace, and I think you could take blackout. I think it's a story about adversity that women could be. You know, a female lawyer trying to fit into a firm headed by, you know, white partners. I think it's really about People who have been marginalized just based on nothing more than the way they look, and it gets his bigger issue. That really kind of concerns me and that is like with Noah bomb back or Steven Spielberg make a movie. It's about the human experience. But if Spike Lee or Barry Jenkins or Justin Simeon make a movie is about the black experience, and that's Patently unfair because this is a movie about the human experience. These characters happen to be black, but it's about how people Are marginalized, and I think that's the takeaway that I had for the film, and I wish it wasn't kind of put in that category, like Spike Lee and Barry Jenkins. Movies are about a certain group of people is about all of us and how we judge people and how we accept people based on nothing more than how they look. I'm Jen white. You're listening to one, eh? We're reviewing the holo original movie. Bad Hair with KPCC is John Horn, film critic and Podcaster Be Andrea July, and Ronald Young, junior film critic and host of Time. Well spent podcast. Well to that end, we got this email from John, who says, I counter that a white man can understand black hair. It is forgotten that many white men suffer male pattern baldness. And starting in the twenties, get the invisible treatment that we hide behind. Hats here, die to pay and head shaving to not feel invisible in a room of attractive people, you know be Andrea. I I hear that, but I'm thinking to go back to the way black women's hair. My own included has been Politicize from the time you know, we are tiny, tiny, tiny little little girls. And even even now, when I went natural in my thirties If, on the rare occasion I would get a blowout in my hair would be straight. The comet would be Oh, You look so professional, which is Inferior thinking that my natural curly here it's considered unprofessional. In some ways. I'm curious how you've experienced this and and how you think about it is a black woman. Yeah. I mean, I think part of the reason I can have the view I have about the movie of that I have never really been interested in. We've tried it once, and I said this is not for me and I have kept my hair natural for the majority of my adult life. I'm just in general, low maintenance person. So short hair works for me because it's less time, but I do think that you know Our hair stories are very personal. You know, I used to think of it. I think of hairdressers as healers because, like I said, my grandmother was a hairdresser. And also I always knew as a child that like if my mom was in a bad mood, I used to wish he had a hair appointment because she would come back a completely different person. It's part therapy. It's part here. Selling Yeah, Yeah, yes. So it is. Motive is an interesting twist for me on like what if here just for evil, you know, like, you know, again, universalized, the black female experience. But the only way you can get that is, if you know the cues of the black women's experience. Well, we've got to have a sort of mixed opinions about this film. But there's this larger confirmation conversation about black filmmakers and criticism and they get into it a bit on the show on another string platform that started a similar conversation..

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