China, Dr. Brian Weeden, United States discussed on Trending Today USA

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I'm John Batchelor. This is the John Batchelor show. David Livingston, Dr space of the space shows, my colleague and co-host this hotel Mars. We're speaking to Dr Brian Weeden, the director of programming and program planning for secure world foundation, Brian and his colleagues earlier this year developed a paper it's available for everyone to read in which they outline counter space or what are the threats? What is the mission the necessary for space, and Brian I want to start with China and probably end with China 'cause roscosmos is out of money these days and has problems building a new space port that works. But China has no problem. With Embiid not only to land in the dark side of the moon. But also to develop what you could say is right now, a nascent lunar colony mission they are looking to extend the militarization of space from low-earth-orbit to all the way to the moon, and in between we can imagine China also has tested some years back. I believe is two thousand seven the only active anti-satellite weapon ever fired, and it caused enormous amount of trouble that still devil's us because of the is from that from that from that event to your measure right now does the United States have an understanding of China as a threat in low-earth-orbit a threat for lunar orbit or do. They regard. This is some sort of parallel program for a trading partner. How are they? How's it regarded Brian? I think they have a pretty good idea of the emerging threat posed by some recent developments for you know, earth orbit in general, and I say that because you know, the the the two thousand seven times as our test was the most public, but there have been many others that same system was tested in two thousand five in two thousand six although not with an intercept and the China has also conducted additional NFL tests Johnson ten thirteen fourteen and fifty and there's strong evidence. There's the US is well aware of. Efforts to develop what is probably going to be an operationally capable system and perhaps more than one. And that that is what prompted Walser that along with some of the Russian activities. Here's what prompted the Obama administration in two thousand thirteen to go back and re look at its national space security related policies. That is what started this whole discussion, which is ending up with the space force today as far as beyond earth orbit. I mean, the US military is currently focused on its satellites in earth orbit and how they provide support to trust your warfighting, the military is not looking beyond that that's not in their current mission scope, and so if your references is China in the moon and beyond while the US military's not current. Looking at beyond earth orbit. So that you know would fall into this discussion of what used the mission of the space force. Two is still remaining focused on supporting and enhancing warfare military activities on earth. Or are we looking at expanding the mission to other national security missions yonder? And that's something that is you know, there is no answer on that yet. It's currently being debated. David. Do you see that getting misinformation out to the public is is making a difference in tons terms of our awareness, and what we may convey to members of congress, and and others is the public having an important role in this debate yet? Well, I know we've we've had discussions with stoppers and members of congress about this. And I think having a document talk about publicly has helped in that regard. You know, believe it or not members of congress are not always up to speed on. You know, the details of some of the policy issues. They're debating particularly issues that are as highly technical and complex and classified as some of this space docks. So in that regard, it really has helped as far as the general public. I think that's a bit trickier. This debate about national security space, your priorities and organization, admissions is not new we've been doing military activities and space since the nineteen fifties. And the public really hasn't been engaged in that has it known about journeyman focused on NASA human spaceflight, and you know, the the the the astronauts are doing. This is changed a bitch. You know, President Trump has personally waited in on this day sports issue. I think that has definitely raise the salience of it. And it's raised awareness among many people who were not necessarily following it before. I don't I am fortunate. I think that is resulted in there's a lot of people that now support a space force because he does there's also people that are against the space force because he supports it. And so I'm not sure that raising the public awareness has been beneficial war. Not we have yet to see I think in general, we hope there's going to be a more informed discussion about the real issues. Here. What are the threats to US stay systems, what should US policy being to deal with those how best to organize and maybe a little bit less on sort of the partisan politics side. Dr. Brian Weeden is the director of program planning for a for a secure world foundation. The report where speaking of is available online, I recommended as reading for a glimpse of the twenty-first centuries challenges in lower orbit and beyond David Livingston, Dr space of the space show. This hotel Mars episode Anna on John Batchelor..

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