NBA, Ruth Bader, Seth Godin discussed on The Long and The Short Of It


Was two years ago. But no, it was only one year. It's absolutely crazy I've been thinking a lot about. How much can happen in such a short amount of time and you don't even realize it's happening while it's happening. It's like when you get to a point to look at it from a different perspective that you realize Oh my goodness so much change. Yeah. Yeah it's like we've talked about change happening drip-by-drip. We've talked about doing one percent at a time and eventually over time things get in equities better or things. Progress I guess is a better way of framing it and you can't see it in the moment like. In any given day, I can't really tell if things are changing. If you know progress is being made in my work or in someone else's work or in the world but then you have a moment where you look back and you're like, wow, a lot has changed. So I guess maybe the the question on the issue I'm packing a little bit is. What do we do with that? How do we create pauses to think about the change that's being made and recognize it pat ourselves on the back and keep moving forward. Well. Here's the thing that's been in my noodle. Is. Time capsules like. Having these recordings, this is a time capsule, and so it's so obvious. Now listening to it to hear how different people are actually I spoke to one of those people today and I was saying to her own my goodness a year ago when you introduce yourself to everyone, you were speaking easily half an octave higher than your natural speaking voice you over were the nerves in her voice. And then she was like really in today's voice. You just proved my point. It's interesting to have these time capsules. So like with that experience in mind since both of us went through that together you and I. We have these recordings and then what's really crazy to me is we have this exit survey at the end of the lab. We had people talk about how far they had come and the things they felt like they got or didn't get and they were very honest and very in the moment while we went back to those people a couple of. Weeks ago to ask them the impact of that experience now, and you can't even believe it's the same person who on the last day of the lab was like I feel like I learned a lot of things and it'll be interesting to see how this goes moving forward, and then now is like it was the most important experience of my entire life. Because they've had all of this time to sit with. Their learnings and so what it got me thinking about is, where am I putting my own personal time capsules like we have the mud cast but we know it's going to be released like what are the things that will be surprised to go back to in a while? I like that I, mean the puck does feels like a an obvious one I. Imagine I mean I haven't done it for a long long time but if we went back and listen to one the first ten episodes or something. Oh. We sound so young and innocent ridiculous. We must do ridiculous but the time capsule. So one that comes to mind for me, I can't actually remember if I've ever talked about this in the podcast or just with you offline. is at the end of when I was a student in the NBA, which is the online leave she workshop that Seth Godin design. So that was over three years ago. One of the things I did for my final project was I recorded a video. To myself from my future self. It was kind of Meta I was like, Hey, it's paid in two years time I've got a few messages for you. I know you just finish the ultimate I want you to remember Blah Blah Blah Blah. And I went back and watched it. I think it was like three months later and I went back and watched like six months later and it wasn't too wasn't too painful to watch and what was wild was after the six months I was like, Oh, the things that I'm talking about in two time. I'm like doing now in six months. That's pretty cool. And then a month or so ago a friend of mine she's also taken the NBA we'll talking about our experiences. And I was like, Oh, I did a video to my future self Blah Blah and she's like could I say it? I was like sure and so I went to find it to send it to her house like I watch it and I watched probably the first ten seconds I had to stop. It's like, Oh my oh, my God I sound. We. It an innocent in Yagi stupid and ignorant and like all of those things and so it was like I'd created a time capsule and now felt we to even listen to it. Oh, my gosh that's so funny. Maybe you'll put it in the box of goodies. Based on your face, I'm guessing the answer that. I mean the Internet didn't freeze that. Was Me really pausing to think about? I. Think we've talked about we did actually talk about it. We've talked about future self is an episode before. which is in a way, it's the kind of the universe of a time capsule. Or is it? I guess anything that you're capturing now that you're going to take a look at later is in some way a So have you got a practice or process or have you got something access to the time capsule? Well, as I'm sitting here, thinking about this, I realized that I do capture a lot of my work now in recording form like I do a lot of my writing by speaking into my phone. Into autre excellent APP will drop it in the box of goodies. And so I have all these recordings that I've never gone back and listened to because I was dissatisfied with the quality of thinking I was doing. So just like never went back to them, but it would be interesting to go back and hear what was important to me at that time, and then see if there are any new connections that could maybe breath those ideas back to life. So that feels like something I'm interested in doing, and then the other thing is during this. Era I'm recognizing I have my five minutes journal. But I probably could be doing a better job. Of creating a record of what is happening right now, what things I'm looking at what things I'm learning big questions because not only will I want to look back at this time in the future and be like, Whoa, that was some crazy stuff but it might also be cool for future generations of my of my family to go. Oh, we heard of the great covid pandemic of twenty twenty. You know great great grandma was in and this is what she had to say. Okay. That sparks to really interesting thoughts. Well, I'll let you in the list determine if they're interesting, it's boxster thoughts. The first is you're right. I hadn't actually thought about that like I've been writing a page every morning and doing five minute journal for over five years like six years. And so it's wild to think that they are time capsules every now and then I might go back and read them but I didn't do it that often and so I guess the question I have which maybe we can explore in a second is like what a time capsules actually four like are they useful? What what could we use them for? What might we use them for but every now and then I go back and read and I have the same reaction to. What you described with folks in the big ideas lab the same reaction to what I described with the video which was like Oh. Wow I'm I, feel like a different person than the person that wrote this and yet? It was me like it's the same person just. Different context, different levels of development ideas and all of that. So And then I guess the other thing that the thought it sparked us to throw this out there is. Actually told you this. So your idea of capturing things for future generations has been something I've observed I don't know if this happens in the states but or other families even but in my family, it's like my dad, my mom, my aunties get to a certain age. And, they'd probably listening. So Hey, on ankles and dads and MOMS, and all of a sudden they really wanna find out more about the family tree in the family and they go to ancestry dot com and it's like a whole project and there's a spreadsheet and there's an a four three bit of paper. It's like family map and and I sort of it go. Wow that's kind of fascinating. Anyway, I was thinking about. Like a year or so ago. What is my equivalent of that? How did I capture interesting stories ideas from my parents and aunties and uncles and family members so that future generations might be able to access it in easy away because I've seen the pain of trying to find birth certificates and death certificates and all of that anyway I started a family podcast. which is private just for our family and I've interviewed each member of family wants so far. Right Yeah Yeah Yes. Yeah. It's We've done. So my immediate family. Of US including me. So I interviewed the four others my mom, my dad, my brother and my sister, and then my brother interviewed me and we call it season. One was like the early days of when you're a child and so. We. All answer the questions and then we all went back and listened, and then we had the zoom co where we will like what did you? Watch what was it like listening to one another share the same memories, but from different angles and all these things. Anyway I'm talking a lot but the point is. I realized what I did was I created a potential TOPKAPI. I didn't even think of it like that. Oh my goodness I WANNA borrow this from you. This is such a brilliant idea. And I am fascinated by the notion that you would like, pick an event that all the family members were at and then interview them about that event and get all the different stories because, of course, everybody's experiences totally different of what that event was and what it meant. Oh my Gosh I love that. Yes. So my first question not to go into it too much. The first question I I. Think I borrowed this slightly from Krista Tippett on being and her podcast she asked the same question at the start of every episode. So my first question to all of the family members and my brother asked me. What are your memories of dinner at like? What are your memories of the dinner table? And everyone was like, Oh, I remember these servants I remember like Isis seated in this chair I remember dad used to say this and it was like Slightly different iterations of the same thing and so yeah, it's been it's been fascinating. Whoa I love that this just made my mind bounce to the greatest gift I ever received from my mother. My mom as a gift to myself and my two sisters this was. I'm going to say it was like maybe six or seven years ago digitized every single thing she had in terms of photographs and videos everything. So we're talking home movies. Back to when my family got their first camera, we're talking photographs of generations that we never even knew digitize the whole thing, and then gave it to us for the holidays for Hanukkah, and it was the most meaningful gift. It was so generous I can't even imagine how much time. Went into that but talk about like a multigenerational time capsule but it's because of the way my computer syncs with my phone all of those images ended up on my phone. So sometimes kate and I will be scrolling through pictures of her as a baby or a toddler, and we'll come across these thousands of pictures of family members. I never knew is so amazing because it really does remind you that you are establishing something right now. That future generations of your lineage will be able to name as their history. But that also you are existing only because of the people in those photos and what they fought for what they cared about the fears that they overcame and the dreams that they had so that you could exist it's sort of beautiful and that way. It really is a reminds me of something you said to me many many times, which is everything has storytelling value. And often we go through a day and we think that. Today was the same as yesterday. I did a similar thing. I didn't collect any new stories or anything like that but to your point everything we're doing. In any given day. Is Nudging forward a story creating a new story pulling on an existing story and adding another chapter to it. So that we can tell it someone else can go back and look at it or we can at some point, sit down and look at the change that's been made through those Yeah okay. This is now pulling my brain over this direction on Monday So I don't know when this episode is going to be released on on the Monday in question our country was mourning the loss of Ruth Bader. Ginsburg she.

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