Bob Woodward, President Trump, Scott Simon discussed on Weekend Edition Saturday


Area and Sacramento Delta. Today's highs. 72 in San Francisco expected 72 in Santa Rosa 74 in Oakland, 87 in Sacramento, 77. The high expected in San Jose. This's weekend edition from NPR News. I'm Scott Simon and glad to have you along with us today week of another bombshell, Bob Woodward's forthcoming book uses the president's own words to certify that he knew in February of this year. A lethal blow Corona viruses but told the American public something else repeatedly for months. Even now, after nearly 200,000 Americans have died. Millions air infected millions filing for unemployment and thousands waiting in food Backlines president says You did nothing wrong. NPR senior editor and correspondent Ron Elving joins us, Ron, Thanks so much for being with us. Good to be with you, Scott. The revelations in the book and I'm going to say revelations because in fact, they're not allegations are grave. Thousands of people have died while the president is ridiculed, wearing masks another preventive measures How is he responded to these revelations. He may have decided he's just better off with the Wizard of Oz. Defense, Scott, you know, pay no attention to that man behind the curtain. But for those with ears to hear the statements he made to Bob Woodward and nearly a score of on the record interviews on tape over the course of eight months make it perfectly clear what the president knew, and when he knew it, and the Woodward book has lots more to such as example. The president, saying his generals are stupid. They're suckers and using terms for them. We can't use on the air on. Of course, above would were brought up the matter of black black lives matter. Protests, too. Woodward says, Look, you and I, Mr President. We're both products of affluence. We went to Ivy League schools. We had every advantage. Shouldn't we make some effort to understand the anger and the pain of people with different life stories, especially black people in this country, and Trump responds. How you really drank the Kool Aid. Didn't you? Just listen to you? Wow, No, I don't feel that at all. And then Trump pivots to his oft repeated claim of having Dunmore for African Americans. Than any president. Any president in history, with the possible exception of Abraham Lincoln. Right now, I have to ask you a question about our business to because it's it's been raised by a few commentators and much of the public this week. Did Bob Woodward have an ethical obligation? I'll even put it this way. Human obligation. To report But the president really knew about the Corona virus back in February or March as lives are being lost every day, and instead of waiting for his book to come out now. That is a trenchant question, Scott and how clean our Bob Woodward's hands here knowing what he did and knowing it when he knew it. His explanation is that he didn't in fact know whether the president was telling him about the virus was in fact, true. Certainly not in February, when the CDC official line was something quite different As you recall, Woodward says he didn't know which to believe, or, in fact, have the information that was the source of Trump's information until May. So then He might have been out there reporting what he knew in May and not waiting to finish his interviews in July. But on the other hand, he wasn't the one on TV at night after night, telling the American people the virus was going away or that we'd turn the corner one more time. And let's turn to the ways in which millions of Americans continue to suffer from the Corona virus in its affect the Senate once again failed to pass, even though what's called the skinny Corona virus bill any any prospect for relief in the future? The Senate couldn't pass, even 1/10 of what the House had passed all the way back in May. You know, yesterday Friday was the 19th anniversary of 9, 11 Scott, and among the many memories of that time that we have are the members of Congress who came out on the Capitol steps. And saying, God bless America together Republicans and Democrats. They also work together in the days and weeks that followed that and whether what they did at that time was all good. It was at least bipartisan and expeditious. We saw some of that again in the spring of this year. Since then, that spirit has surely been lost. Ron Elving. Thanks so much. Thank you, Scott. Now to the Sodom of confusion on college campuses, some students have been suspended or fined for attending parties in some places, alarming numbers of Corona virus infections of forced universities to send their students home. NPR's Alison Edward is on a road trip to see several campuses a school year like no other begins and today She is in Ames, Iowa, Iowa State, despite all has begun its big 12 college football season. Elissa, Thanks for being with us, boring kick off in a few hours, right? That's right. Yes, it's the opening game of the season, so the issue cyclones are set to play the Louisiana Raging Cajuns. A spirit team and the marching band will be there. We caught them practicing last night, all wearing masks. Of course, it won't be like other games. There's.

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