Frankie Boyer, VA, Dr Christiaan Gordon discussed on The Frankie Boyer Show


It's a show about living in today's world famous happening Frankie inclusion brings an amazing eclectic mix to the airwaves got that. One of the reasons she's earned legions of loyal fans is very simple. When you listen to the Frankie Boyer show. You just never know. What's going to happen? So. Here route Frankie Boyer. Welcome. It. Today. Another phenomenal. Really? Kicking things off. With our first guest. Dr Christiaan Gordon has. Very interesting background because she has experienced an internal medicine emergency. Remit? Listen occupational medicine rehabilitative medicine board certified by the American board of physical medicine. But it's her own. Story as a veteran. That we need to talk about. And she's written about it in her new book. Turn the lights on a physician's personal journey from the darkness of traumatic brain injury to hope healing and recovery. And Dr Gordon welcome to the program. I'll Frankie thank you so much for having me. I really appreciate this opportunity to speak to our veterans our military members and their families about this signature wounded war, which is traumatic brain injury and how they can get some help. So I really appreciate your stepping up to the plate and allowing me to speak today. Okay. Tell us a little bit about your own personal story. Okay. I will. I if I want to clarify. I am not veteran. I am not nearly brave enough to do anything. But I am a physician who as you said it's had kind of an eclectic background, which sits with your particular program. I love all of medicine, but my favorite is rehabilitation medicine, and I shall live in traumatic brain injury. Okay. This was great until I had my own traumatic brain injury, and what I found out as a patient. It's what we were doing as physicians with really not helping I could not even drive even though I had a normal MRI got it because I couldn't even judge distances or left hand turns or any of the above. So I literally had to kind of rehab myself at home, thanks to my Apple computer and fast forward. Ten years later. I began working with veterans coming back from Iraq and Afghanistan with the improvised explosive device blast terrible problems with cognition with memory with processing vision and yet normal MRI. Is as my less. And instead what we did as a nation to say. You know, you guys are crazy. Medications to kinda keep you quiet and calm you down. When in reality. Our attorney veterans or out of their brains. Not out of their minds. So it is so amazing. I was able to then take my story. And the reason why I wrote it down in this book, and it's intermingled with stories of veterans who've come back from the war, and how they have sought rehabilitation and in the midst of Frankie while I was writing this. I get a call from Jonathan wells from Columbus, Ohio, the Ohio State Buckeye national championships. 'cause you know, I played for a wish you, but I played in the NFL, and I have a TV. I can I tell my story. I mean, I don't even know how he found out. I was writing the book, but it shows the broad based of individuals who are undergoing primarily young otherwise very healthy people who get into a situation with our young ki- roses, primarily the blast that huge explosion that literally rattles their brain and breaks connections in multitude parts of the brain. And we need to do something about it. We needed first to get a public awareness about it. Which is why? I strove to to produce a documentary called operation resurrection, and that is available on our website at resurrecting lives dot org. But it is an explanation to the United States here. We are we have these folks back here, and we need to do something about it. So let's talk about your your particular injury and the injuries that many of our veterans that are coming back with telex tells us exactly what TBI stands for. Okay. It stands for traumatic brain injury. And that means any injury to the brain from an outside force. So it's different from a stroke where there's a bleed or there's something internally going wrong. This is something that strikes the brain from the outside. A fall. Banging your head. Yes. Exactly. Exactly. Okay. Why this is this is been something that that I don't understand. I have not understood why we're not understood. We don't get what's happening with our veterans. I don't understand this piece. And I have a very hard time. Because the number of veterans that are committing suicide every day is alarming. Men and women taking their own life their own lives. Why? Why are we not hearing more from doctors like you speaking out and sharing this information? I think it's because of the amount of doctors who deal with traumatic brain injury. There's only eight to ten percent of all healthcare providers across the board in our nation who deal with individuals with traumatic brain injury. Okay. So I think that is a major problem. The other thing is it wasn't really until around the time of the war in two thousand five two thousand seven where we began developing the technology to actually look inside what was going on in these kinds of injuries, and that was with very specialized MRI's like diffusion tensor imaging which is who we utilize Dr Michael Lipton at Albert Einstein. College of medicine. There's only a handful of docks at that time neuro radiologist who were looking inside the brain. So okay. We're now ten years later, though, I would expect a little bit more participation of the VA and the civilian world this. World where ninety nine percent of the resources. You know, we need to be a -cluded. India question of taking care of our veterans on a much larger scale than just the choice act. So you had you lost the ability to speak simple sentences. Tasks you couldn't dial a phone. I couldn't. Yeah. Am I am? I was normal the conventional MRI with. And I was just very blessed with my my colleagues realized if I wasn't speaking. There was an issue. Our poor young veterans coming back did not get that same response. Do you know what I mean? And we need as a nation to stand up and say, no, they do have issues, and it is our responsibility to help re integrate them, and let's get clear here in order to rehab a brain with mild traumatic brain injury. It may take three to six months on the average of your kind of retraining the vision retraining their ability to balance retraining some of their thought processes, but then they're often running. I mean, why do we not invest that upfront? That's what I'm saying. I'm very blessed to be working with a group of software engineers in in a company gray matter innovations, and what we are working on is kind of a digit suitable response. Like, we're going to treat. Our veterans with virtual reality where they will be able to utilize a headset in a computer at home multiple times a day. We cannot expect our young veterans to travel thirty forty fifty miles to VA center. Three times a week. You know, it is ineffective. It's expensive and ineffective. So what I am advocating. That's why I really cannot. Thank you, a not is that we need as a nation to abrasive and gives them technology to rehab, right? Because let me tell you all of these young men and women are used to strapping on a helmet and taking orders, you know, let the warrior being charge of their own care. And that's what we are advocating and the book was kind of like, the the the tipping point that if I can get this word out there and enough of our young veterans and their families can read it and get to the proper sources that we get our legislators to read this and understand it. So that we can literally opened up some of these services in the civilian world tour veterans, we would be a lot stronger nation. You know, I'm listening to you doctor, and I'm just seeing all of the hope and the enthusiasm and what you're bringing to the table this book turn the lights on. Is really powerful. And if you didn't have this experience, you probably could not relate or understand what our vets are going through. Absolutely. I consider. It was the the universe drafting me at that moment and. The most important thing that happened. I volunteered. A couple of days a month at the VA to do their traumatic brain injury screening, which was sad enough in two thousand and eight meaning that there were no other physicians who wanted to. Okay, doctor. I'm going to have you back that gives us the website of how people can find out about the documentary about the book in the work that you're doing surely, our website is resurrecting lives dot org and on there. You can click and watch the forty three minute documentary. You can also see a link for Amazon, which is where the book is being sold both in paperback copy and in kindle copy. So I will tell you that a lot of people we've had in the month of December alone, like eleven emails of young veterans who were struggling as you said and said, you know, this book really did give me hope and got me. Thank you so much. We'll be back in just a moment. This is Frankie Boyer. You're listening to us on biz talk radio..

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