HIV, Kenya, President George Bush discussed on World Affairs Council


And killed the leader is really I think the best example of responsibility to protect as what happened in Kenya. After the twenty seven twenty eight elections where without ever reason, the word military, everybody corporate the UN European Union African I got my mandate from the African Union, but everybody was involved. In fact, President George Bush was in Tanzania and discussion with the government I called him. And I said I'm in Kenya negotiated. Would you ask Conde to join me we talked for the people and Condie came the secretary-general wasn't under Simba. I asked him to come to talk to the people in situations where sometimes ministers wanted to come in on their own time. How tear them this is not the time to come. The people were supply cheer present. And we all work together that the US resum we drew visas of people who are causing problems the names of the individuals were never released. So people went around wondering who was going to be next. Who should? Who who is misbehaving that they may be next on the list, so all sorts of diplomatic political and economic pressure was used to get people to behave themselves and resolve the conflict, and that for me was a classic example of responsibility to protect not what happened in Libya? Another thing that you did both at the United Nations. And and they do now in the co fan foundation in back to sort of mechanisms. Is it you've been very clear, bats states, not being alone. Advancing the public that there is a role for civil society. A for the private sector say something about the logic behind well first public private partnerships, like the club, founder and more. Recently, you have found something called the alliance for green revolution in Africa. Something about this public private partnerships. But also your your specific efforts to reach out to business and to reach out to the edge of the charitable sector. Civil societies. No, I believe that we all need to work together. And we cannot leave the solution of the some of these problems to governments are lowered. And also, I find that governments and leaders sometimes hobbit short term view. They know they're more concerned about the next election. And about the next generation because that's a long term goal. And I think if civil society and the private sector, I bought the also the also live in the communities and know, the problems of the community and the people we can tackle the issues together. And as you mentioned, a good example was a global fund to fight HIV malaria and two buck loses where we brought together civil society governments and the private sector, and the board representations from these three groups and the chairmanship rotates. Civil society lead us, Chad. So a private sector and government, and it has worked very well. I made when I set up the fund I think the fed school lies. I I sat was let's try and raise five billion dollars. Today. We are over twenty to thirty billion dollars has been raised to fight HIV as malaria and not only that. The private sector the pharmaceutical companies, reduce the price of medication the considerably. So that many more people can get. Treatment. And this group the private sector came from a position where they were Syrian Monday in South African court because he had wanted to use and general license and to create to manufacture generic Bachchan of the medication for his people because it was really ram devastated. They are free. South African population. They took him to court has. So when I met with them. I said, look, I'm not a public relations, man. But if you go and see you in the South African court on an issue like HIV aids. If you lose you lose if you win you lose and loosen news and the abetted pull it out of court and sat quietly, and that's what they did. But they also made a contribution. And I think that is a way to go. We all need to pull our air force and resources to tackle the problems of the day. And I think when civil society and the private sector team up. We also give the politicians. A bit more energy and a bit more encouragement, not only in terms of resources and ideas, but they realize as support for what they want to do. So I just have two last questions under I is this conference 'cause no bystanders, and it's a characteristic shared by everyone in the room and well beyond. At what point in your life was the concept of of no bystanders instilled in you yet since that, you had that ability, and that responsibility to make a different penned. What's your advice to young people who are struggling with that question? Yeah. From personally that attitude came to me. And. I went to boarding school at a young age. And usually when you get there there's lots of bullying going on. So the fast was bullied a lot the second year. I tried a bit of bullying. And then I gave up from the type protecting the younger ones. Who came in which of obvious. They also got into trouble with the headmaster the teachers because they thought I was always questioning those in parity and that. It was going to get me into trouble. I remember the head must have once called mantis office saying it has come to my attention that you always questioning those in. And I'm the one who runs a school, and you're going to pay for it one of these days. And then went on to say, I've been watching you. I think given the chance you may tend to be a fairly good citizens. Back to. But you have to. So I've had this tendency to always be the underdog and the smaller one and my. Hoon family. Also encourage my me, and my father and others. And now, of course, my wife who is here with us often was said, this is awful country. Do something about it. And. I hope even when I go to matches. She would ask me what side I you support. An instinct typically, I'm always with the underdog. I want them to do better. Them to to win. But I also felt that. If you're not a bystander, if you intervene, you how the coverage to intervene, you help a lot of people, and I tell young people it doesn't have to be taken on big issues. And now you may be walking down in your corner on the street and see somebody being bullied mistreated done just by by you should be able to stop this. Stop it. No more and by doing that. Yeah. Given the victim incredible. And energy to fight back. You know? And. Really helps because it is when we all sort of passive bystanders and allowed to go on that the wicked. Carry-on the Tanaz Ben said all that is required for evil men to do. Yeah. Well, good men say nothing. You. I should be careful could men and good women to say that was his. But I think the young people have to be courageous. They have to be able to take on challenges or situations. I they think October collected to do something about. And I say repeat. I repeat again, you're never never too young to lead the moments. Hopefully for leadership comes you know, it and you can feed what you can do. We issued. I chaired the elders and the elders issue this. This is also upset by Mandela made up of former heads of states, president Carter President Cardoso and not as which I chair we issued a statement when the young students took to the streets after the Miami shoot. I was so proud of this young people, basically telling us all people if you're not doing what you should do. We are going to show you an I firmly believe that when leaders failed to lead the people can lead and make them follow. And these young people who gave us a wonderful. And I hope there was a stand the effort and continue..

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