Murder, Robert You, Charles Manson discussed on Stuff To Blow Your Mind
Welcome to October. That's right October for us. Is They? Just a full month of Halloween flavored spooky. Creepy Monster is content. We would put out monstrous and occasionally hearth content at other points during the year, but we really try and make sure that October is just jam packed. We take our the. We take this one holiday very seriously. Anyway. It's monster science all month. That's right and so today Robert You wanted to talk about horror, movies and masks yeah I kind of. Out of I just kept thinking about this recently and don't think there was one particular movie that that inspired it. Because obviously I've been watching slasher movies for a large proportion of my life. I imagine you have as well and I and I don't imagine we have to explain this particular trope to anyone out there. You don't have to have seen a single slasher film to know it by Heart, a masked murderer is on the prow, and perhaps by the end of the film you'll either discover the killer's identity or the nature of the disfiguration that forces them to wear that mask. Yeah, you discover it through this. This unmasking that tends to happen at. At the end of the movie and I think it's interesting that the unmasking or face reveal trope happens in horror movies now. Okay, L. Frame it into is one way that it happens in horror movies that are also mysteries. Yes, this makes total sense to me. Imagine a slasher movie like the scream movies where it turns out at the end of every movie that the killer is a character known to you and you've discovered it was this person all along, and the mask revealed the face. The mascots pulled off the face. Reveal tells you who it was. It conveys information. Get is the Scooby Doo. trope exactly it was old man. Grizzle bums all along. But then there are tons of movies with masked killers that have unmasking moments, but the killer's mask is removed, and it is not. It's not a mystery. It's not a character. like there's Halloween. And the Friday the thirteenth sequels in movies like this. You already know who the killer is, or the killer is not a previously known character, and in these cases I always wonder what purpose does the face reveal serve? It still tends to happen at. At the climax of the movie as if like, this is all what it's all been leading up to. There's the face, but it's not like it reveals anything about who it was just like. That's what his face looks like. Yeah, I mean on one level is just Kinda like the Fangoria magazine Gore Hound ethos right. You know he just building up to that point where you've seen all his grisly stuff, but you want to reach peak. Peak grotesque, and that's where it's going to occur. When mask is pulled off, I guess so. This is of course all just a very well worn trope trope that we keep utilizing our horror fiction. Because let's face it, it works. It's fine, and I realized that it can. It can be a little bit problematic when we start to dissect our love for pretend murder films, which essentially that's what we're talking about. Pretend murder movies and I just want to warn people at the top of this episode that while we often talk about horror movies monsters. Monsters, ghosts and so forth we don't usually talk about real world, serial killers and stuff, which can arguably at least to me be more disturbing, subject matter, and so as a point of illustration of our topic today we will be discussing a few real murderers from history. Just fair warning if that sort of thing is likely to bother you, you know I think about the difference between loving fictional horror and loving say true crime like this is a. A big difference for me. I I love monsters and murder, mystery horror, and all that, but I do not really enjoy true crime at all and often find it unpleasant I mean I can think of a few counter. Examples like movies Odia. This great and I love the the Charles Manson season of the podcast. You must remember this. Have you ever listened to that I Have I. Think I've listened to a few episodes. Yes, it's really good, but. But I have I have not listened to the Charles. Manson episodes will. If you haven't checked it out the here's podcast recommendation, you must remember this with Karina. Longworth is about Hollywood history and I really enjoy it, but in general I. Really prefer my exposure to violence and murder to be fictional, and of course I know people who are exactly the other way around right I. Know You probably due to Robert like they can't stomach even the mildest. But they gobble up nonfiction, crime, books and podcasts about the most horrible kinds of real life, murder and mayhem which to me is more likely to make me feel just kind of depressed. Yeah I don't know I do know individuals who fall into either category individuals who like both I mean there are. There are people who just really love both horror and true crime and we'll and we'll. We'll take it all in our they can they get it You, know for my own part I I'm not as much into true crime right now, but I certainly went through a period of time in college in particular where I was just like consuming everything I could get at the time, and they weren't as many options especially online. We didn't have true crime podcast. Bet that back then. Know I was watching. Any kind of documentary I could get my hands on I was. I was visiting some of the early true crime websites and in reading the Some of those those those big thick detective manuals about homicide investigation. Now one thing that we can come back to in a minute is I bet when you were going through this true crime phase, you may have been surprised to not encounter much use of the mask in in real life murder exactly, and that's that's really.