Walter, Sean Spruce, Pinery discussed on Native America Calling


Thank you for listening to native America calling. I'm Sean spruce. We're hearing different perspectives from folks who are at the occupation of wounded knee, which began 50 years ago today. If you'd like to contribute any insights today's conversation, you can call us at one 809 9 6 two 8 four 8. That's also one 809 9 native. You can also leave a post on our social media. Speaking now with Walter, little moon, he was a resident near wounded knee at the time of the occupation and Walter, you know, when you talk about the occupation now with other people's pine ridge residents, reflecting back now 50 years later, what do you hear from them? Do they have similar memories such as yourself, just some of these memories you shared? Exactly. Beneficial, many more or less blamed only community residents for creating the AMP coming in and, you know, like I said, earlier, we didn't even know that they were coming to one that day. But after they were there, and we got blamed for just about everything, whether it was in pine ridge, or Kyle. So they come from a wounded list. Don't even talk to them. Don't even think about them. So what's happening there is your own fault. Now, cepha like that. It was very hurtful. But in a way, what took place during that time when the shooting started was that a lot of the aim members would start breaking into houses. And started vandalizing and looting everything that they had. Other people had. Beadwork or even cast iron kettle pots cooking pots. That were handed down through their own grandparents. A lot of that stuff, this disappeared. But we know for a fact that there were people going in and out just about every night. It was a certain route that they used. So a lot of stuff like that, you know, they start burning things. I know they burnt my uncle's place. And they broke into my mother's house and just tore the hold down a house down completely. The real fulfilling on the ground, all the boards were lined with bumpers. They even took our stove, heating stones up there. There are a lot of these things is how I remember that occupation. That's one of the reasons I have nothing to do with either group. Because they did a lot of harm, the elderly people and wounded knee are all gone now. They're all passed away with broken hearts. aim didn't care. They didn't even come back to one, didn't they? Just one person came back. And here on this stage because he just wanted to show off his 19 57 Thunderbird classic. Which probably cost him about 35, $40,000. I don't know where he got the money from, but I suspect he got it from donations. But Dave and I donation that did come along with me. Ended up in pinery. All the charitable churches. They were all running some kind of. Ring there, getting donations. Whether it was food, money, clothing, and then they would turn around and say, we don't have anything. And everything's already been given out. But it ended up that you were given a home relations. But nobody in all that, so that's how we had to survive. But I had nothing. Not even buckets to haul water in. There was only one way that we could walk in order to get water. And we've got jokes plastic yelling. Two at a time on these social like the data was a long stick across the back. We walked down the road. We had to walk right in in the center of the little and if we didn't do that, then they threatened to shoot us. How are they U.S. Marshals? But they also treated us with respect and word of the tribal council, police, public safety, the police department. Was there mostly harassing us? One way or another, it would drive through and finally the Marshalls is ordered them out. So a lot of things like that that people don't want to talk about. Okay, all right. I'm sorry to, you know, we're just so fascinating welter, but I know we've got that heart out with you and you have to move on and we have other guests as well. So really want to thank you for joining us today, Walter and sharing your memories again, folks. It was Walter, little moon. He was a resident at wounded knee during the time of the occupation. He is oglala Lakota and northern Cheyenne, and I know you want to go Walter your memories are very valuable, but we do are going to go ahead and move on with the conversation. Now, and Dwayne, I want to go back to you and we have Dwayne camp, panca elder, who was also a warrior there at wounded. And Dwyane give us, again, a little bit more context here. What was the main motivating factor during the standoff there for aim? When I first went back, it was because in the very beginning, rather Carter said they were in a hell of a fight and that was I could hear the gunfire. And I arrived there early on. And got a real education. And the elder, the spoke just a moment ago, I'd like to say that living in a war zone being a problem there must have been horrible. And I'm very sorry for the pain and the terrible loss that the residents and those of that area felt. Because it was a war zone, and there were people being killed on both sides. We had not just the Justice Department in the military, the U.S. Military against aim, but also the goon squad the oglala, the dick Wilson, the corrupt chairman, the really lit the match on this thing. I'm going to need he had this bunch of guys that had a horrible reputation. Anyway, they called themselves the goon squad, and that said for a guardian of the nation. They liked that. They wanted to be called the gun squad. Anyway, when brother Carter meeting with the Ocala at calico hall prior to wounded knee, they chose him. They asked him to come in first, not any

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