Hulu, Mike Nichols, George Clooney discussed on Weekend Edition Saturday
There is Joseph pillars. Classic nineteen sixty one novel on the illogic and absurdity of war was made into two hour. Movie by Mike Nichols in nineteen seventy. It's now a six hour miniseries on Hulu, this time, produced and directed by George Clooney, filmed and sun, bleached Browns and tans headed starts Christopher Abbott who joins us now from New York. Thanks so much for being with us. Thanks for having me, your classic character in any way, were you intimidated, because millions of people think they already know him. Yes. At first exactly for that reason it's, it's almost different than the idea of playing quote unquote. I Kana character even in film, this literary, econo- character. The idea of the characters in the imaginations of the readers themselves, not a person who's already cast and something else, you know, but ultimately, I had to let that go because I had other things to worry about put it that way in your life. Your life that I support naked as much as you do. To exactly one thing, I noticed an inevitably those of us who seen the film, we're going to make comparisons with the mini series. But in that in that film, so many people have seen course Eleanor can mature Seren card phone call Jon Voight as some of the flyers. Now it's it's you. And it looks like a much younger group of actors which in a way is more real, isn't it? I think it's a little bit more appropriate to the what was actually happening in the time period, you know, a lot of the pilots and Bombardier's gunners and stuff. A lot of them are nineteen twenty years old, which is kind of makes the battles, and the drama that, that much more harrowing when there's young kids up there. You're Syrian says at some point I'm not ashamed. I'm afraid help us understand how that come about an, you know, he's for me. I think the character you Syrian is someone. One who even though he's trying to kind of get out of these missions. He's not it's not that he's afraid to die. He's just afraid to die at the hands of his superiors. So I think that's where that kind of comes from. It's one of the many characteristics that kind of drew me to, to because I think the reason why he wants to get out so bad as his lust for life. We should explain. These are fliers who don't know, the enemy are probably never met a Nazi, their enemy day-to-day, or their superior officers, and people in the army bureaucracy. Right. You sorry and kind of has this somewhat essential view on life and align in the show, also, you know, the enemy is anyone who's going to get you killed no matter whose side that he's on. And it just a very interesting thought to me, because the idea, especially during World War Two, you know, you're fighting a just cause and in it is. And it was, and you're saying that as well. But when you kind of break. Down moment to moment, you know, everyone's trying to kill him whether they're fellow officers are or the Germans, I've got to tell you and I say this with respect for your portrayal, your Sehrian can be difficult to like I mean I understand why he's afraid and battled stresses real but he, he does things to try and make himself safer which wind up making his colleagues less safe and that's not admirable. I mean, it's part of the kind of dichotomy of the character, to, and it's why you, you root for him still even though I guess, some of some of the actions are questionable my job as the actor always kind of justify the character. Right. So and always kind of see the right side of things. So for me when he does put his fellow soldiers kind of at risk. It's never with intention, an episode where you kind of pulls the wires of an intercom system to, to get them to kind of go back. And turn around. He did that obviously selfishly but he's also trying it has an idea in his head that he's saving the other men in the in the plane with them. But it yeah it back leads to very unfortunate. Every death is unfortunate, but intentionally though on his part? Yeah, well certainly unintentionally but on the other hand, he's, you know, for every action, there's a reaction you make yourself safer, you'll make somebody else unsafe. Right. And but he's also having the kind of mentality that it's, it's a coin toss. Anyway, when you're up there, and, and I think physically in real life, it was. I think for the some of these bomber crews, I think there was just over just under fifty percent chance. Every time you go up. Catch twenty two the novel came up nineteen sixty one but I think at the end a gain in popularity and reputation was being read in school. So it becomes kind of all mixed up with American public opinion during the war in Vietnam. Which became a very unpopular war. What do you think this, there's many series has to say to people today? Well, I think that there's never a wrong time to talk about the absurdity of war, and although some wars are, just it least all wars start with something absurd an absurd event and on top of it all history repeats itself. And these kind of inane bureaucratic walls that you are in kind of goes up against kind of feels like it's happened in in life as well. Chris rabbit has your Syrian in the Hulu. Many surveys of catch twenty two thank.