Mitha, Egypt, Jerusalem discussed on Judaism Unbound

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Those happen at a specific place at the temple in jerusalem. There's a bunch of sacrifices etc but the rabbis and not even just the rabbis other jewish groups. That weren't rabbis. They made the executive decision. They made the call as a collective that. We're going to do coat or over going to shove what we're going to do those everywhere in the world even though you could read it as sort of their done because we're not in this one land anymore or we don't have this one temple anywhere but with meter. We read it away. That suggested up. This was only about one land. It was about how our it was about though. Land of israel not land wherever the land is in the world and so we stopped whether whether we ever doing it as a whole other question but at the very least even if we were doing at one point we stopped because jews were elsewhere in the world and the idea was that you can't really mark these rituals this relationship to land if you're not in one specific land and so i was curious like do you agree with me that this was a mess up like that we should have. We should have actually said you know this. One could be transported around the world to and relationship to land is not about relationship to one land but rather with the planet or would you say like well. Maybe it's more complicated than that. How would you approach that. Probably it's more complicated choice but basically it takes a huge social infrastructure for schmead. Workout is not a choice that an individual makes. It's not a choice. That a farmer makes his choice that whole society makes so it makes sense that it would be very hard demand. People try to observe that outside of the land where they don't actually control jokes are going quotes but you don't control or manage their relationship to the land where they're subject to other people's definition of what relationship to the land is going to be. It doesn't mean that we shouldn't learn from shumita and apply that to how we lived in the lands wherever whichever landward Our rules and rituals are both a vision of how all humanity can be living sustainably in relation to the earth but there are also a vision of specifically how this people could live in this specific ecosystem and some of our rules really only apply to that ecosystem. The rain season ends. And that's passover and that's the beginning of a the wheat throwing and the barley harvest. We go seven weeks later. Tissue vote and that's the end of the wheat harvest and the beginning of the fruit. They happen to match. This is not true in every ecosystem. That one thing ends in the next one begins. That's a beautiful amazing thing and our at holidays. Keep us key to that reality to the extent that we remember that it exists for many generations in many places in the jewish. The only memory of the holidays is what they meant. Historically where i should say mitha myth of historic like this is about the leaving of egypt is about the giving of the torah. Sue coat is about something sort of fuzzy like living in tents in the desert. Okay happens at a particular time for agricultural reasons. Not for any other reason. For agricultural reasons it keeps us keyed to a specific ecosystem. That ecosystem is a rain fed. Agriculture message batavia was a river fed agriculture. they're vastly different ecologically practically technologically. There's nothing you can do in a rain. Fed agriculture on hills to force fertility on the land. You're dependent on the rain in mesopotamia. You weren't dependent on the rain. You could use tigris-euphrates twitter whatever you wanted to. And so in a sense. Humans felt they were in control of their fertility of the land's fertility. Same thing in egypt and when you're in control you can go to Various extremes of injustice and without being afraid that the whole system's going to upend itself that wasn't existing There were no stable sources of anything. And that's what our ancestors wanted crepe they wanted a world in which they would do wrong in von which is Sort of the beginning of winter months. When came at the end of winter in spots there would be consequences already. You know like your your wheat would not would not have gotten an frame because they were immediate consequences now they had a mythical idea those consequences. You do something bad. In god's stops giving rain in this kind of almost a clockwork way in of course. It's much more subtle complicated. But that's what they were craving were craving a relationship of immediate feedback with the land and with god not every ecosystem even has the potential to do that. So that's a particular way of understanding how to sustainably in the land. Schmead is based on all of these things building up into sustainable structure. So that isn't going to work in every place in the world but the basic lessons that we don't own the land that we don't have a right to the land the land has a right to rest of the land is a person a subject in covenant with god that can apply everywhere even though ecologically the lessons of how you make that real might differ from one place to the other. I wanted to come back to the kind of myth. Oh historical framing that. You gave it the beginning because i was thinking about another element and also relating it to what we've heard recently about climate change which is that. At least i was listening to description on the new york times. Podcast the daily about this. Un climate change report recently and they basically asked the reporter. Like what can we do about it. And the answer was kind of like on the one hand. There's nothing we can do about it. Because it's it's happening and on the other hand we have to do something about it. And as i was listening to your framing of the myth of historical idea that after the destruction of the flood at some point. God that all right. I'm going to try one more time with this. Guy abraham and his little model community. And let's see if that works. And i would raise the question of like did it work. I mean it seems like maybe it didn't work but if we're going to try it again that actually makes sense to me so Following on what you're saying about yeah in different ecosystems. There's going to be different ways to dish mita. And maybe the exact laws as we read them in leviticus and elsewhere in the talmud or the jewish codes. Like those specific. Laws aren't the ones that we should be enacting in order to truly live out schmidt now at least not in a lot of places in the world but yet we we should do so. I guess i'm wondering like what's your vision. What's your imagination about how either the jews themselves ourselves should try again to be that model community and door. Are there things that we can be doing. Not specifically as jews to try to bring the idea of being a model into a more real world and we have to sweet dozen the tour. One is the one mentioned in exodus attendant. Natasha you should release not take what comes to milan for yourself. That's one version. That's what's elaborated in leviticus. Twenty five an impartial. The hookah tie the partial. The tour pushing that comes right. After is the one that tells us that the land will get is whether you let her or not and you will get wiped out if necessary in order for that to happen. So that's one she is. All those texts wants.

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