Michigan, Justin Amash, United States discussed on Daily Detroit

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It stopped being magic. I don't even remember Franken. It's interesting to me because I've been in that same situation. Where AH YOU KNOW I? I worked in print journalism. But my you know I've been a victim of downsizing essentially with our publication shuttered. My job just was gone away. I saw your blog actually where you sort of chronicle that interim period but yes. Oh yes my little candies corner that I've I've that's some good research. I'm impressed oppressed and let it go. But it was an interesting period. What did you get out of that? Well I mean I work on this podcast I also work as a freelance writer on the side and I do a lot a lot of different stuff and so it it Resonated with you. I'm like Oh yeah. She's doing projects for municipal services. My first my first thing after after I'd gotten left and I'd never been let go by the way which is rare in that business. I'd never had that experience was that I will say in credit to credit it to the managers at greater media. The decision was made back in Boston. We don't want to do this morning. Show and the local folks executed that decision with compassion. Even to the point were the day that I came into. Sign my exit agreement. He took me to breakfast. General Manager I appreciate it thanks. That was nice it was. I'm sure you've got a Severance you know if it was it was something but it was. It was not I was not ready to not be making money. Sure and I was not mentally ready to not be doing that. Whereas now I'm at a point where I'm very ready to step away. So I was more. Just knocked off my moorings but so that first job that I did for municipal services was back like my TV reporting days. So I found okay the brain still there can right and then I did a bunch of projects for Beaumont Hospitals Cancer Center Cancer Cancer programs and then that dovetailed into a nice chance meeting with my former general manager of the one that brought me back to WNYC in nineteen ninety. Nine is a lovely man. Steve Schramm who was the general manager of Michigan Radio. Yeah Yeah Yeah. So that's how I wound up in public radio right so that was twenty twelve. When you caught on with if Michigan Radio previously you had been exclusively on the commercial radio side I had so? What was that transition like terrifying? Why such smart smart? Smart people are part of that team. And even though I've been doing it for decades you know you're coming in as I saw the as the new kid who had all this commercial experience. But what Steve wanted was a bit more of a commercial sound to stateside. He said don't sound sound like the Saturday night live. NPR stateside an existing program. It had been a program for a while under a couple of host todd. Mont had done it and charity Naby. Abby had done it but it had been shelved and Steve had been thinking about I want to revive a local produce locally produced program that focuses on Michigan so so he been toying with who would be the person and so they took it off the shelf when he and I cross paths. I did an audition and IT FIT I. I had to grow in my own mind signed to the person that could run with this team because they're pretty amazing on the other hand. I'm in the business because public radio When I will cat out of College College I was working for the American Cancer Society? I was a health educator and I was driving to and from the office and coming home I would never missed this show on John W dt called all things considered and that was back in nineteen seventy seven seventy eight and then oh my goodness morning version. It's morning edition so I would that that pulled me into how magical radio could be in radio. Storytelling could be. Yeah so I felt like I was home beyond the obvious things you know. Commercial radio has Advertisements Commercials Public Radio Does Not underwriting drives and fundraising so beyond those obvious things. How are the two formats different? Well it it for me Having been in a world where I'd been told you have sixty seconds to do headlines weather sports traffic reports to traffic to accidents. That's all you can do. And you have sixty seconds or you have a minute fifteen to do it all to come into an environment where I I can do. Eighteen minutes for a full segment interview. If it's worth it we'll go eighteen minutes that is like the whole section of the paper instead of one little column in the front page page of the paper and So that has been you walk away satisfied. You don't walk away thinking oh I left so much that we weren't able to get to it's great to walk away satisfied So that's that's to me the biggest thing in public radio you have a place to be able to create more room and time is is it a little harder order more work Hoya. Yeah I will say that These seven years It's a different kind of work about. I have worked very very hard instead out of being in the news truck like I was for so many years when I was at UPN fifty was fox. Fifty first and then Fox left and wkbd and we went to UPN eventually eventually. But I was on the ten o'clock news on Channel Fifty so as opposed to rolling around in the news truck looking for where. You're going to do that. Nights live shot. This is more. This is a a lot of homework to and I could be at home in my. PJ's so there is that but reading because you have to be up on everything. Yeah and I get prep material for every every interview but I do five to eight interviews day right. I heard you say that a prep. That's how much like you get some help. Though from your producers the producers will yeah so let's just say I'm going to interview somebody. Who's a tech entrepreneur? Who's just gotten a lot of seed money to start a terrific new? AIP I company in Ann Arbor. I will have gotten a form that tells me what the focus is that we want to get to maybe talk about what kinds of developments. They're doing an AI. And also Oh yeah and also what's the what's the ecosystem. What's for entrepreneurs so in Michigan so that might be the pig there will be a pre interview notes because one of our interns have pre interviewed? The person most likely there will might there might be some links for Meter read so stories that had been written about them and sometimes people will. Do you few who suggested questions. Because they like to get creative to and and and it's great for me to see an angle that I hadn't thought of but then ultimately I gotTa Digest all of that I craft all the leads leads and I- craft the the questions that That you hear and the lead writing is is an art because you wanna make it something that grabs you. That isn't too long. Helps people understand what it's about so I do a lot of that writing. Who are some of your favorite like interviewer people people in the business? Like do you try to emulate anybody. Oh interview guests like actual interviewers people who are asking the questions. You know it's interesting. I dive in and out and especially especially as I'm driving home so I might be listening to MSNBC OR CNN. Do I listen to a lot of radio interviews. I don't you know why because it's coals to Newcastle. So when I'm driving home on probably listening to The Broadway show. I'm listening to radio classics. So whom John you've had enough talk. I kinda have my brain just pooped and it knows it's going to be doing work at home so I've got my playlist going with music so I tend to not do a lot but out here like I happened to really like Nicole Wallace on MSNBC. Because I appreciate how she's made this transition into TV journalism and she's got a lot of she's very every natural well Susan Stamford. I mean. Going right back Terry. Gross to grow. She's the alleged Diane ream because of the I. I liked that tone of civility and that any point of view is welcome. And that's really what we try to do too. And actually I had the pleasure of sitting down and interviewing her about her most recent book about her husband's passing and and Interesting yes and she has people who adore her. We did it at Hill Auditorium and it was full of adoring actually not hill. I think it was even bigger than that. I forget we were in somewhere on campus and she has people that adore her and for good reason so people like that that are tick Hewlett a respectful. I cannot stand Dan shouting I cannot people shouting at each other your persona on stateside. You come across as very friendly and approachable. Maybe that's from your time on and I see and it's who I am. I'm not aggressive interviewer. WHO's GonNa pick you up and slam you wall? That's I just I that's not me and it never has been right but at the same time you know you've interviewed lots of politicians. Governors presidential candidates You recently had Justin Amash. The less Michigan and Congressman Tea Party member who just defected from the Republican Party. Claret his declaration of Independence on independence. Day Yeah so I mean. We're in this hyper hyper. Partisan political era I mean is. Is it tough to do those kind of interviews now. I try to step back and I'm not there to carry water for listeners. Who are unhappy that we're talking to whomever or for the person I'm there to ask the questions to let them put their ideas out there so that everyone listening can can say? Here's a here's a set of ideas you decide for yourself if you agree or disagree like I've noticed with many of the social media comments with Justin. The Mosh are I hate the kinds of things that he was doing when he was before it was the Freedom Caucus. It was tea party and it was people's people will say I disagree disagree with decisions. He made but I respect what he did here. Putting the country before the Party and stepping away. So you see that and I'll get people going. What did you ask Ask that because it isn't my I'm not I don't see myself as the one to smack them around. We will ask and ask again if somebody won't give straight answer. There are a lot of politicians audrey good at not answering questions I felt he answered directly thoughtfully and his his message was an interesting one of we need to look at each other and the I we need to stop demonizing each other for believing or not believing different things and he said we need to love each other a little more. which I don't think is a message in nineteen Meghan re piano the star of the women's World Cup in the US national team just said yes victory. Yeah isn't that interesting. Love to be a fly on the wall with coffee between the two of those people. Well you know I have this little thing that I do. After I've had an interesting guest et al come in and I'll go. There's another one for the Dream Dinner Party and that's what I'll do people that that I find really interesting and I just personally connect with and I agree. Wouldn't it be great to get people together of a lot of different backgrounds and serves some wine and some good food and just see what the conversations like a great idea for for podcast show or sure. Yeah the Dream Dinner Party so who are a few people that would be in that party. Wow let's see I'm GonNa Start and these are guests that I've had had on stateside that I'm just always light up when I see their names. Charlie Ballard Michigan State University economist. The guy that can make economics interesting because does he brings such energy. He's got a book that has been on my list. I grow on time. These great Leaves Whitney Leaves Whitney used to be a speechwriter for John Engler and he is now at Grand Valley estate where he's the Hohnstein Center for Presidential Studies director so he's are kind of presidential historian and since I was a history major. I get excited Debbie. Dingle I just find she has so much heart and I always I was an admired Greatly the public service career of the Dean of the House of John. Dingell and congressman. Dan Kildee Congressman. Fred Upton. I always enjoy talking to him. I would now put Justin Amash on that after having talked with him. I that somebody. I'd liked to to kind of explore the conservative point of view with one of the things. I enjoy about that list though. Is that although there are some names that some people would know. Yeah it's not like a default the big stars personally when it comes to conversations I feel like although sometimes larger names bring in audiences or drive by audiences to to me the best conversations happen with the folks a little bit later quote unquote below that. Or don't have as much attention. They are willing to have more candidate an interesting conversations that I feel like the audience values more. Yeah and then I love being able to tell stories and help bring gentlemen and right. Now I'm having a senior moment and His name is John and he was one of the longest serving exonerated these in. US history and he went away in Michigan prison in nineteen sixty eighty seven and he just got out to ago and he was unjustly convicted. And he's now been exonerated and this man has become an artist and I'm hating that I'm forgetting his name..

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