Then Tim dinsdale was a he was an aeronautical engineer, and he became kind of a famous Loch Ness hunter because on his after reading more than a legend that constant white book, he was inspired to go hunt for the Loch Ness monster. And on his first time out, he caught something very weird moving away from him on the lock on film. Have you seen it? Yeah, I've looked at all this stuff. Where do you think? I think some of it looks very interesting. That didn't still film in particular looks pretty interesting to me too. Yeah, agreed. I'm not going to go out there. Well, let's just say, I'll save my judgment. Save it. But in the, like I said, over the years, as technology got better, they started using this technology in the 1970s. There was a series of expeditions sponsored by academy of applied science out of a Boston and they were the first people to combine sonar because they're all already using that. Right. But sonar and underwater photography under the leadership of a guy named Robert reins, who was I love this description, a lawyer trained in physics. And they were using side scan sonar, which we've talked about before a couple of times over the years. Yeah, maybe tabloids episode. Pressure hunting or something. Or Barbie, I don't remember. One of those. But here's the idea there is you combine side scan sonar with and time it along with your underwater photography. And if you get something a picture snapped at the same time, you get a, let's call it a ding. I don't know what sound it makes, but I assume a side scan sonar dings. If something swims by. Well, no, side scan sonar, so it makes it sends out a ping or whatever, but it gets echoes back from all the different stuff that bounces off of at different rates and it creates basically like a picture of the floor of the Lake. Yeah, I just meant a ding to alert you. I was just oh, I got you. I see. Like a typewriter, right? For a microwave? Yeah, but the point is, if you have those two things that like, hey, we got a real picture and then a side scan sonar picture at the same time. Then it has a little bit more credibility all of a sudden. Yeah, and I mean, it really did. They hit something, I think, in June 1975, or sometime in 1975, they had the system going and at the same time that the sonar was showing some at least one very large object moving, they were getting photographs that when they developed showed some very odd stuff. Yeah, and this underwater photography, it's got a strobe light that you can see stuff because it is very dark. And this thing, if you look at these photos, you know, it looks like a big triangular sort of diamond shaped fin or a flipper. On a big kind of creature, but you know, it's not super detailed, but it does look like something different and interesting. Did you see the other ones that came out of that batch? Yeah, I mean, it all looks different and interesting. I'm not saying like, oh my God, look at that monster. 'cause I don't know enough about what sort of weird fish might be in that Lake. But it definitely looks weird enough to prompt attention, I think. It looks like a big bellied long necked sea monster to me.