California, Midwest, Berkeley discussed on KCBS Radio Weekend News

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Architecture in order for people not to move because of these things that are happening? There's two fundamental things that need to happen, particularly in state of California, the state Legislature working together with climate scientists, geologists and experts in Geospatial Intelligence. Need to draw maps on really where the highest risk zones are for fire, and they need to coordinate land use and where they build and rebuild. So that they basically begin to move and transition people out of high risk areas. The other thing that needs to happen in California and this is a longstanding debate, of course in Sacramento. Ultimately, the state is me going to need to step in and override local land use decisions. That is how and when and where to build to incentivize greater density and get around what we would know It's not my backyard phenomenon. Because all you know people are moving into what we call the wild urban interface. In part because of the existing challenges. We're all aware of in terms of housing, affordability and the like, in one way to really combat wildfires, believe it or not, is actually building more sustainable urban development. In our urban course. Now, Jessie. I know in places like in Hawaii, you know, on the Big island they have, you know, lava zones and really estate prices. You know, a greatly affected depending on if you live in a in a particular lava zone. Did you see something like that down the road say for California's a wildfire zone or something like that. Could that make a difference? It could. It is exactly what I'm calling for. And I think you're right that you know, One of the collateral effects here is that when you remove land, it creates more scarcity. And that increases howling, of course. By some measures undermines affordability. But we have to come back that by actually producing Mohr housing in the type of housing that avails itself. Of density access to mass transportation on the light. You know, I'd like to blame Berkeley, California for wildfires because Berkeley, California refuses to build high density affordable housing near their mass transit stops. So you know, and that's a little bit of a hyperbole, of course, but It's not too far off from the challenges that we face. I think, Jesse when people here and we talk about climate based migration there, you know a lot of times were thinking, California. We're thinking, Florida. We're thinking of these places where we keep repeatedly hearing about hurricanes and wildfires and things like that. With that said, when people are relocating out of these places, where are they heading? I mean, you still have issues you when you're talking Tornadoes and things like that in the Midwest. I mean, where are people going? No, there's nowhere that is unaffected from climate change. You know, certain cities and communities and geography is would be better off or have less perils or less risk. But there's nowhere you can hide. That being said. I think it's work stepping back and taking big picture here that at least in the northern Hemisphere flora and fauna, plants and animals are in a slow northern migration. And I don't think that people are any different in this broader ecological realm. We will slowly be shifting our populations further and further north, and I think certainly in terms of the Northeast the Midwest in the upper Midwest, United States, There's a real opportunity there to think about sustainable urban development that Give consideration to affordability, access to transportation and many of the urban amenities that we have taken for granted. And that is just a keen, an associate professor of real estate in the school of architecture at Tulane University..

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