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We are all chomping at the bit with this star. Trek Picard. Just premiered. We've we've all seen it where all trek fans and on the show. Today it's my solve norm in CA- shore and we also have a very special bottle of love card wine because you already talked about this before we dive into it. We can't talk the card without a nice beverage. This one was made in twenty me. Three eighty six at Chateau Picard in France year. Very good vintage for this wine so this was a promotional wine that was put out not recently by recently. I mean three Hundred Years in the future to celebrate the premiere of Star Trek Picard. You can hear them wind being imported. You're listening to the PODCAST. We're going to drink while talking about it but not because were sad. But because it's a celebratory wine. This is a show waiting. Eighty four for a very long time came on nowhere really when they announced they're doing it and now we see like not only what the show is about the kind of really why hi feels like why did the why Patrick Stewart came back and brought back the characterised beloved captain now retired admiral retired tired from starfleet and what story threads. He wants to conclude in his narrative. Arc Yeah cheers to that get started on this us all right so my first question most important questions especially for people who haven't seen star Trek Picard yet and maybe are just about to dive into it or or debating diving into it or debating paying for diving into it do you need to be a super tricky to enjoy star Trek Picard. Now I say this with knowing that those of you are probably super trekkies and I'm more on you know. Definitely Fan but not encyclopedic. We're GONNA say you're more of a trekker. I have to feelings about this. I think Great Star Trek. You don't need the backstory. Because it's their character studies with an optimistic view towards the future. Typically so in that vein I think once we get into this season and it gets rolling rolling. I expect that to be true of this series as well that being said Oh you should watch some TNG because otherwise you're going to miss sort of the back story that I think sets up his character and where he is in his life right now because without watching some episodes of TNG Ganji where you see him as he was it makes it harder to understand who he is. Now the relationships that the had with the crew data specifically I think is a big part of this show but they're playing new characters as well I think even if you're die hard star Trek Fan or the casual star Trek Fan you are going to go into this season premiere a little bit confused. 'cause they throw you right in and I think the bigger thing is unlike star trek next generation that aired and there were some Ciro story lines in that two partners This is not going to be like an episode villain of the week misery of the week. It is life with star trek discovery a season long plot that is episode episode strung together. And that's probably the bigger bigger consideration. I mean you definitely have to watch some next generation to sort of have context that said as being on the casual outside of Star Trek Fan. I grew up watching T. N. G. I grew up watching Picard loved it. I can't say that I've recently caught up on it and I can't say I've watched you know some of the movies that technically the plot like intertwines into this timeline and I say you know having just watched T. and G. when it was. AH ON TV more often like I felt like I was able to still enjoy this and still get enough of it. Like maybe missing a few details here or there. But I didn't feel like wait. What's that about and who's this and let's tie feel like if you've been like a casual watcher of it like you can still jump in? But if you're wanting to really really dive deep then yeah you might want to refresh. If you don't know who John Luc Picard is what I should. Yeah the legend and frankly I actually don't thank you need to watch a bunch of episodes even though that's kind of what I did. I think if you watch the movie nemesis. I think that gives you most of what you need to dive in with enough background on. Who these people are there relationships to give you a grounding as warning on both senses because of diehard searcher fans will appreciate all the subtle Easter eggs and the dot connecting that the show does even than the season premiere? But if you don't want to check those dots so you can enjoy the acting because turns out Patrick. Stewart's a wonderful actor and his performance here. He's he's running on all cylinders. Yeah yeah absolutely early. So jumping right into the core of the first episode because we're just talking about the first premiere episode. Today I was really interested because a huge huge part of this episode is about synthetics creatures for lack of a better term humanoids essentially that are like data the kind of it sounded like maybe lesser forms of data slightly. But data like you know humanoids and sort of what's happened and there's a lot of talk about what what did happen and where they are now for me watching it. There was a lot of parallels to bladerunner because in blade runner. There's the context of all these replicans are promised as servants and offering colonies. And then they're no longer allow. The Republicans are no longer allowed on earth because they mutinied the need similarly in this first episode synthetics mutinied and a bombed Mars and a lot of people died. Ninety thousand people died as a the result. And now we're in this world where synthetics the idea of them is like hugely debated and really sets the stage for what the whole whole plot and topic area is for this first episode. What were your thoughts on? I mean as a kid watching the next generation I was really fascinated by the difference between an android enjoyed. A CYBORG cybernetic organisms. Maybe have some biological tissue and in Star Trek next generation. You have the board. As kind of the Earth I borg. And then you had the perfect android which was data. Artificial human data represented for the show the character that was finding the his humanity and it's classic Star Trek trope. The least biologically physically human character ends up being the most human data and so on. And so you have that those things coming together I think in the show and opportunity to explore for those and also like you said reminding you of Blade runner. It also reminded me of cattle star now circle ACTA and what it meant for the analogy of silence then than being indistinguishable from humans and in this case androids being indistinguishable from humans. There's no doubt based on this first episode that we know this series series is going to tackle that question of what it really means to be human what it means to belong. We know from interviews that Patrick Stewart has done. He said he was attracted to the script. Partly because of this sort of tension between like who belongs who doesn't that he saw parallels in Brexit with attracted him to the story and so I can only imagine that what we see as we progress through the storyline is more and more of that that and I wonder if it's going to take the shape of what it means to be section which is kind of a phrase we heard thrown around this premiere episode. Or if they're going to try try try to take it in a different direction at all. Because we've had a lot of discussions and sci fi about that question of sentence and some just masterpieces uses in science fiction and of tackled that like xbox of recent memory dealing with that in a in a really exceptional way. So I wonder if it's going to be a twist or if we're GONNA lean into that just wholeheartedly and that's what this story is going to be about. Yeah well and what about the science of it like about this idea that a lot of times in sci-fi it seems androids are created and then they help us settle on Mars. Why is it that we need or like? Why do you think keeps coming up like this idea of paying in storyline that we have these androids and they are specifically helping us on on another planet to great question there is? Why do they even need to look like humans right? Because a lot of these scientists we've talked to in past episodes here here really talk about being robots being kind of the way we get around the distance between stars and making space travel practical. Not going to be necessarily humans as understand understand now but robots that do the traveling for us or the work in this case for us but they're really leaning into the mythology that star trek is built in that the goal. Oh isn't just a robot but the robot that somehow still has the humanoid form factor maybe has maybe are designed to have some type of sentence this but that's not really necessary even if you're talking about just labor yeah and frankly I don't think they're being used in star trek in this like pure we need to get stuff done. They're like members of the crew that like hang out at like ten forward and stuff and like data used to make drinks all the time as a hobby. It's not exactly what you would call like useful quote unquote. So I think that this is probably going to have a different flavor. I think it's just a pure writing mechanism to have us. Reflect elect on the humanity that exists. And so they're not really even looking at it from the science standpoint it makes no sense to me from science standpoint. It was designing androids. As long as I didn't look at it as these are beings that have rights. I don't think I would imagine in designing them in the way we see if there is definitely in this episode like a lot of science consideration when it comes to ethics so all of the synthetic research research and neurobiology hacking that had been getting done to like build better and better synthetic humans got cancelled. See Their lab that it's just a ghost town I'm D- Like what do you think about the fact that you know it is actually querying during the ethics of this. You know there's the humanity side of this of like who's human but then there's the science side of like how much it should they be creating. These neural. You know being ethics is probably the thematic thing that they're challenging challenging here but from a plot perspective I would say that's almost the politics of world and it's something we've seen starship before. The cloaking technology algae for example was something that was banned for use in warfare now as purely practical political decision to make you know to make the sides equal. That could have been the fuel case here. Synthetics fight out banned because of the fear of these type of rogue attacks but I feel like it has parallels to like a lot of science hacking king. Oh totally today. You know I would imagine based off the cliff hanger that we saw. We're going to be headed in that direction and we may may want to hold off on talking about that cliffhanger but given just sort of the advanced technology we saw towards the end of the episode..