Support by sinofsky chambers law, championing tribal sovereignty and Native American rights since 1976 from opioids litigation to treaty rights to tribal self governance, with offices in Washington, D.C., New Mexico, California, and Alaska. Sadowski chambers law. Native voice one the Native American radio network. This is native America calling, I'm Sean spruce. 18th century British explorer James cook is revered for his drive and seamanship from Tonga in the South Pacific to the Bering strait. He put more than 120 English place names on the map, from mount edgecombe and Alaska to the bay of plenty in New Zealand. That doesn't count the many places named after him. But his colonial exploits were often at odds with the indigenous peoples already living in the places he landed. His conflicts with indigenous people during his efforts to expand the British Empire came to a head on this date in 1779. That's the day he was killed in a skirmish with native Hawaiians. We're talking about cook's legacy today from a native perspective. Are there places in your area named after the British explorer? What is the name? James cook me to you and your native community. Give us a call at one 809 9 6 two 8 four 8. That's also one 809 9 native. Joining us first from Honolulu Hawaii is doctor Keanu sai. He's a political scientist. Doctor psi, welcome to native America calling. Thank you for having me. Doctor James cook is revered around the world and explore a cartographer. How is he regarded in Hawaii? It's not that we don't celebrate anything regarding captain cook. He's a part of our history though. And he's known for it. Well, they say discovered he didn't discover Hawaii, but he arrived here. And so he also met his demise here. His demise, right? And that's an interesting story. We want to get into that for sure. But when Kirk, we cook first arrived there on the islands, what was life like for the people who lived there? Well, it was in these islands that were actually three separate kingdoms. The kingdom of kawaii, the kingdom of Maui and the kingdom of Hawaii. And they were very chiefly, very keenly oriented. In fact, anthropologists recently had now referred to these kingdoms along with Tonga as primary states or archaic states the way they're set up similar to nasal America. And so forth. So it was very feudal like and he had classes of people. So you had the king, the chiefs, or nobility, and the commoners. So when captain cook first arrived, it was on Kauai and 17. Before. So it was a year before he demise in 1779. And when he arrived in Hawaii on Kauai. They said he came across a fisherman and efficiently kind of just looked at him. I was like, well, that's a large ship. And that was that first connection that was made. And then he continued his journey. Now, when he came back, returned to Hawaii in 1779, he arrived at that same time that he first touched Kauai a year earlier. And this was a season called makahiki. So the two primary seasons within these islands under these kingdoms. And it was the season of peace and the season of war. When he arrived in Kauai, it was doing a season of peace. That's roughly four months. It runs around from March to I believe January and early February. So that is when there's festivities and is dedicated to the God London, right? Now, when that season ends, which is either late January early February, that's when it gets into the season of war. And that's on the kuka limo cohesive war God. And that's when wars take place, right? So when he showed up, just so happens he arrived during the season of peace. So he was very well received. And when he returned, he was also what we see because he arrives during that same kind. Now when he left to continue his journey, map being there, trying to find the northwest passage. His mass broke in the fore. So we had to come back to Hawaii for the island. And then he came into kill like a quarter, which is where he was before. But it was very different. Because people were looking at him like, what are you doing here? And some of the chiefs were getting a little anxious. So a couple of them actually stored his schooner off of his ship. And what captain cook did the following day was use a tactic that he used in the southern in the South Pacific. Where if something is taken is going to take something from them and hold them ransom, hold a ransom, and say, you give it, I'll give you back. You might think I give you your thing. Well, the one thing he did, which wasn't good, once he went to apprehend. King colonial pool. And he was a king of the way island. And at first, the king thought he was a friend. So he's just going to go with him. And it was one of his wives that said, no. Colonial pool. Is your enemy? He's taking your way because of the attitude. And he was there with marines with muskets. And that's