Steve, September 2020, Nasa discussed on Coast to Coast AM with George Noory


You should to tune in today. Newsmax. It's great television. Coast to coast continues on 5 70 K. L i f And welcome back to coast to coast. George Nori with you, Steve Gorm with us, Steve. What was it that you must have seen years ago? That got you to think the way you think now. Well, it was kind of an interesting process for me. I was just an out of work business executive in 2000 and eight and Couldn't get a job at the same level without moving out of my area, which is Chicago and decided to look for topics to write books on and got involved in the climate debate. I read all of Al Gore's books and Things just sitting ring true, and the more I looked at the issue, the more I decided that Uh, much of society was going in the wrong direction on this, Um And that we didn't really have a problem here, and this thing is continued to continue to move in that direction. We have As you know. Now, every community signing up to be net zero by 2050 and Um, all sorts of solutions. We all have to drive electric cars. We have to get rid of gas stoves. We have to Time to get rid of, of course, coal and natural gas plants to replace them with wind and solar. And so we're talking big dollars. Now the world is spending over $500 billion a year. And renewables to try and, uh, stopped the planet from warming. So it really is a huge effort. And you know the ironic part about all this. This is not clear that that effort is actually going to Measurably affect global temperatures. Let's take a moment to talk about some of these wildfires and get back to some of these other issues. I mean, they seem to be all over the place. Tahoe has had some problems. Northern California have has problems, but they've had problems forever, haven't they? Well, yeah, that the US West right now is it's got some issues. There have been some droughts and Lots of players. Um, So the question is what is causing these fires? Um Uh, For example, in California they have had Uh, 10 of their top 20 most damaging fires. Have occurred in the last 10 years in terms of structures destroyed. And governor. Newsom has attributed that to climate change frequently. This is a quote from September 2020. Quote. I'm a little bit exhausted that we have to continue to debate this issue. This is a climate damn emergency. It is real and it's happening. This is the perfect storm. He was at that time he was overlooking the Oroville fire in Northern California. The thing is that we've only had about maybe two or 3/10 of a degree. In temperature warming over the last three or four decades. So why are we having so many fires? And the and the sensible answer. Appears to be The way we're managing our forests in three areas, fire suppression, declining forest harvests and insect damage. There was a little Hoover commission that studied the issue in 2000 and 18. And they said the century of Forest Fire suppression and California produced disastrous results. Basically we were not letting natural fires burn and for a long time putting them out. And so we had fire we have forced that were choked with tinder dry brush and worsens worsened conditions for insect damage and disease. And they recommended frequent low intensity fire. In other words, controlled burns. To make these forests healthy. Um Another thing is is the forestry business. Um, California harvested only 1.6 billion board feet of timber and 2000 and 18. That was down 30% from the year 2000 and down 65% from the late 19 eighties. And so California is not harvesting the wood, and it's continuing to grow. And these choke forests have created ideal conditions for insect damage, particularly the bark beetle. The U. S. Forest Service estimated in 2000 and 18 that California had 147 million dead trees and most of those that died in the last 10 years since 2010 or so And so you have this situation that when these forests that when he fires start, they just burn and they burn and they burn. And what about arson? Steve? Yeah, Players are starting a lot of different ways. Lightning will start fires, people start fires, campfires or arson. Um and also the power lines of Pacific gas. And we saw that problem A couple of years ago chased on that quite a bit. I don't know what the exact fraction is about. Intentional starting fires. The interesting thing about all this is last year, NASA published data Again from satellites. And they showed that and by the way, they looked down, and they look at the burned area on the earth. Throughout the year. Every year in August, we have about 10,000 fires burning across the world. But they found that the percent of global area burned has been declining. From 2000 and 3 to 2015 declined by about 20% across the world. So you've got to kind of answer. You've got to kind of wonder. You know, it's a head scratcher, so if global temperatures are going up In global burned areas declining across the world. Despite that, why are West Coast fires worse in California and Washington, Oregon, and the answer is that it's not global temperatures. It's not the climate. In any case, the governor is is not going to. There's no way that this This problem will be solved by Um electric stoves or electric vehicles Just not going to happen. So quit making excuses. Get to the fire management and work on the problem and that way is it possible, Steve that this could be a weapon that some nations some nation may have launched some kind of like huge magnifying glass that uses the sun and his burning up these places. That would be interesting. I think we would see we could see one of those in the space, though. If it were up there, you should see the beam down. That's unlikely, although they could be sending agents out to start fires, But again, I have no information and in that direction are you concerned about our climate future? Based on the way things are going right now. Well, you know, I'm concerned about efforts to fight the climate that the the sensible solution is to adapt to climate change. We've done that through all of history. Um Uh, you know, and people are going to adapt and the nations that are wealthier. If you look at the death rates, for example. Death rates have been declining throughout the last 120 years or so throughout the 20th century from disasters. Even though we're having about the same number of disasters, and by the way, the dollar level of hurricane hits has been rising. But that's because people are building on the ocean and homes are more expensive. But the death rates are down by more than a factor of 10. And particularly in the wealthy nations, the nations that are wealthy and have high incomes. Have very few people that die anymore relative to history. In terms of Floods or droughts or anything else. So, uh, adaptation is the solution. There is no evidence that we can Stop the rise of the oceans or make the storms less severe. In terms of a United Nations effort. What are they doing? Sure. Well, let's talk a little bit about how this thing got started. Um So back in 1988. It actually started in the United States. The Or it was given a big push. In the United States. There were Senate hearings. And, uh, Senator Tim Wirth and Al Gore was part of it. Had hearings on the climate, and they called Dr James Hansen of NASA to testify. Hansen said he was 99% confidence the world was getting warmer. And there was a high degree of probability that it was due to man made greenhouse gases. And it was kind of interesting what they did. There was a.

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