President Kim, China, China Foreign Affairs University discussed on Future Tense

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And he is a it'd you know that he goes from the guts, and you know, when he was going into meet Kim, President Kim of North Korea. He said, I'll know, you know, in a matter of seconds, whether this is going to go, well or not and the problem is we all know is sometimes our gut is wrong. And we don't have enough information to soar an NF people around us to sort of temper what we think might be right? And so that's what's concerning so far. I think we've gotten lucky we haven't had a disaster or or dangerous situation arise. It got pretty scary with Kim and Trump when they were talking about the size of their nuclear weapons in their arsenals. But that seems to have been tempered. And of course, it's not just on Trump is it. I mean, a lot of global ladies Honey personal in the way, they talk about international. Issues at the moment. So he's just one player among many isn't. He no he is in the others are on. Now, he cries an order one of Turkey who's just been reelected. Another one is urban present urban of Hungary. Right. So no, he's not alone in doing that. But typically, you know, in a democratic system, you have more checks and balances on the foreign policy, and then also there's a recognition in an acknowledgement of the level of expertise within the institutions of the state. Yes, these purser Listrik it can help and it can make some dramatic changes. But then you need to have the staff that you can rely on later to actually implement it. Right. It's not just enough to make a pronouncement, but then the nitty gritty of eventually making positive change relying on the staff and trusting that that staff is doing a good job. My concern is that this particular administration and some of the other ministrations talk about Turkey, Hungary. Poland is another one. Whether that's going to be the case. You're listening to future tense. I'm Antony Fennell. As professor Duffy tuft point sounds there are in democratic countries of Lee, some checks and balances on the direction and implementation of foreign policy, even if at times proved somewhat ineffective, but enormous credit countries. There are no such chicks. China's foreign policy has become increasingly assertive in recent times and lock the United States. It's diplomatic core is undergoing a dramatic change. Meriden Barral is the director of the East Asia program. At a struggle is low institute, she spent time teaching international relations at the China foreign affairs university in Beijing, the new breed of Chinese diplomat's. She says is being taught to be highly nationalistic to identify the interests of the ruling Chinese communist party with the interests of the nation and to adopt an asset gains them approach to the outside world. They're being taught to represent the Chinese nation publicly, and in a very particular way, and those world views and ideas that they're being immersed in this probably for that. I think came out most strongly in my time there, and they were the ideas that history is destiny, and that is to say that the past is the blueprint for the future. So how things were is the way that how things will be and what that looks like is related to the next world view. Which is this victimization narrative that China has been humiliated and bullied and persecuted by outsiders, and that until say the mid eighteen hundreds the Moore's in the mid eighteen hundreds China was an enormously important and well respected international player. You know, the Chinese GDP before that time was greater than all the rest of the world put together and so- linked with that. I will do what they see is that the rest of the world or these allied forces came together. In the mid eighteen hundreds and they pulled China down from its rightful place in the world, and they persecuted and tormented it until it was a week shadow of its former self, and they think that that history is on track to be rectified, the third world view is the idea that the region is kind of like a family. So rather than saying the countries in the region as exactly equal. They see it more as a hierarchy, and they say themselves China as a sort of benevolent father figure benevolent, but strict father figure who will be making sure that there's the right kind of order that everybody benefits, but it's a it's a relationship of complimentarities rather than a relationship of equals and the fourth world view is.

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