George, Steve, Steve Gorham discussed on Coast to Coast AM with George Noory


And welcome back. Our final segment would Steve gorham, Steve when you're out of vents, what seems to be the question that most people want answered. Well, there are many. You know, I speak a lot to businesses and one of the things I I run across is they they tell me you're preaching to the choir. But the funny thing is though, they don't realize that the majority of US business thinks that the climate laws and the energy laws are foolish in many ways. The headlines are grabbed a lot of the big companies like apple and Google and the political leaders, but but the kind of the rank and file of of American business thinks a little bit different. But they don't realize that they're in a majority. So it's a little bit of a strange situation. Let's see what are some of the other major questions. Why why are all the climate models? Wrong is is something that people come up with and it has to do with some of the assumptions are they concerned about anything. Well, they've, you know, back in nineteen ninety the United Nations in the intergovernmental panel on climate change predicted that temperatures would rise three tenths of a degree celsius per decade with a max of five tenths and a low of two tenths. And if you plot those on a chart, those rights pretty fast, but over the last thirty years, we've we had much less than that. So we're we're below the estimates of the United Nations that they made in nineteen ninety. We're not seeing the the rice that was forecasted which basically says the assumptions of the climate models are wrong and natural factors dominate global temperatures. Let's go to Joe in Long Island New York, east of the Rockies. Hey, joe. Go ahead. Steve interesting show. Actually, I walked climate change want it to be warmer, but. And a comment got a quick my first question what they we just had a. Donation? Fortunately, and they said that they weren't really warned that that was supposed to be a beacon that was working with the people could have. This thing. So I relate this to ocean temperatures how well monitored all ocean temperatures and the satellites come into play with anything to do with that. My second question would be the political climate. You know, all I talk about the last couple of weeks. Twenty four seven is the, you know, Brett Kavanagh in his issues and. It does make me think that the senators don't have time to study science never or the interest and really don't have a good grasp of science. Maybe they took one course thirty forty fifty years ago and science and never really updated themselves on their own. And you know, I don't wanna pick on Trump. He's already gotten blamed for the recent hurricane in the Washington Post. And then my comment would be you said the nuclear industry was traditional. And I think it's a like a lot of people a potential disaster waiting to happen. I know it doesn't contribute to climate increased CO two if you look at channel that's still only buried, it's still active. It's never been contained. Nobody can go within fifty miles of the place. All these years later. So you take New York, for example, you've got Indian point right Manam this big metro area or something ever happened with that. Then what happens to New York City? So you got a whole bunch of things there. I think there were three of them one was what are we doing with ocean temperature measurements? The the National Oceanic and atmosphere administration has I think they are the ones who put out these diving measuring devices, I forget the name of them again. But they have thousands of them out there now, but they've only been deployed for about twelve to fifteen years. So we really only have data on ocean. Temperatures from measurements over the last twelve to fifteen years before that it was just, you know, people take him on ships and kinda measurements are going around. And those weren't very accurate. The. Then you said about what's let's see the third one was nuclear plants. I think one of the big issues with nuclear plants that they need need to solve us need to be able to shut down automatically. We still have plants. Most of the ones around the world that are relying on cooling systems, and if the cooling systems Fe fail like happened to the Sonam in Japan than we have a chance for a big meltdown. So that problem needs to be solved. The other big problem with nuclear is is just frankly natural gas is so darn cheap right now. Nobody will build a nuclear plant, and I think the third one was satellites well, you said something about governments. And what's your question? I think. Defeated about five times in the US congress. I think the majority of arguably more than half of the United States. So members of congress right now do not think logo warming is a dangerous problem. Most of those around the Republican side, of course. And as I mentioned, we have we have we now have climate revolts if you will in Australian Ontario. So I think I think political leaders are starting to get it. This has been a disaster crisis for more than twenty years now, and we're really not seeing the disaster. So hopefully, I've covered most of your issues. I think the biggest problem we've got is an ex flare from the sun that could wipe out our power grid in render us useless forever. That's possible. Probably a big explosion there. Again, if the if all those volcanoes, go off in Antarctica and melt, a big bunch of south of the peninsula down there that could be an issue. This many many things that could occur. Again, we need to adapt as well. We skin and the biggest one is an ice age. Boy, I like this warm weather folks, I do not want to see the start of the stage. We've got we've got a guest Robert Felix. Who believes we're in the early stage of an ice age. Who knows Walter in Pennsylvania taken away while go ahead. By Georgia, needless to say, great to talk to you once again, George. Thank you, Walter. George job with all due respect. Mr. gorham sounds a lot like. Dr Tim ball. George with all due respect to Mr. gorham. I don't think that Dr Paul Erlich has been discredited at all. I think George I think it's just common sense. The human population of this planet tonight increase shot in some item. Now, George we share this planet with myriad other species. In modern culture may have arrived. The ancient bane of of modern. I culture consumers much natural habitat in Africa. The human population is driving the elephants to extinction just as in this country. You know, we have largely erotic hated the great heard so buffalo bisons. So, you know, not so you you couldn't have twenty million. The great bison herds that used to be twenty million in a heard you couldn't have them. They would be compatible with our culture where the bike informally wrong. We have expansion fields of corn and soybeans and wheat. So. You know? I just think it's common sense that the human population Kanada crease ad infinitum. There comes a point. Steve is there not that? You know, you can't have a population of twenty billion people on the planet. No. You can't. And and you make good points. Well, but the the the predictions are now that we're going to level off about ten and a half billion. There is no doubt that we've radically transformed the surface of the earth. We are certainly have done that and taking over large portions of it. And I think we had sixty million bison at one time estimates those days are gone. There are some good news. There are some good news, by the way. Dr like once said if he was a betting man, he predicted that by the year two thousand England with no longer exist because of population growth, he's one of the guys that's maybe been wrong. The most times that publicly in history. But there are some good. There are some good news things. One is we actually reached peak agricultural land. According to United nation state of the the total amount of land being cultivated or as pasture land peaked in the year two thousand and is now slowly declining even with the population growth farmers can grow so much. There's so productive that they don't need to put so much land into cultivation second by the year. Twenty fifty we're going to have global forest re-growth nets global forestry growth on the planet force are still shrinking. But in two thirds of the world's nations the United States, Western Europe. Russia China, we have forest growth or stable for us. So there are some good signs. The trends are good. But yeah, we're not going to go back to the days. When most of the world was uninhabited. We had all forests. And we had all the bison that just won't happen. What's happening with rising sea levels? So sea levels have been rising for the last twenty thousand years, you can go to to NASA their website and see that data they've risen three hundred ninety feet a hundred and twenty meters since the last ice age. No, scientists can tell you when natural sea level rise stopped and man made sea level rise began right now the rice is about seven inches per century. That's been going for the last couple of hundred years any politician tells you he knows how to stop sea level rise. I'd hold onto your wallet. We need to adapt to rising oceans, we're not going to be able to stop that. And that is largely driven by natural factors obvious. Slee has happened in the past because there were discovering ancient cities that are under water. There have been some. Well. Yeah, there if you look at I think it's emphasis in Turkey. If you look at PISA both of those cities are about there are some some indications that the seas were higher at one point in time as well. Those are about five miles from the coast, but historical accounts PISA used to be a big core. A big port. In in north west Italy. And this used to be a port as well. So there was some times when the oceans were higher. But again, this is something we need to adapt to we're not gonna stop the sea level rise. So matter what they what they think in California, Bruce, Woodland Hills, California is with us eyebrows. Go ahead. Hi, george. Thank you for taking my call. Hi, Steve Bruce, yell before. I I wanna talk about the war climate change. But before I get into I just kinda liked to the mention perhaps a lot of listeners that aren't aware is the global elites that run. This country are masters at keeping us completely oblivious. And dumped what's really going on the word climate change is a narrative we hear all the time. The weather stations a news article scientists that is not the proper word the word is abrupt climate collapse. And we never hear about the word climate engineering. These are programs now that have been in effect for over seventy years, and they've been ramped up over the last twenty years. This is the era song injections, they're spraying. God knows. How many millions of tons of aerosol? Anyone could just look up into sky. If they don't doubt this. Heart technology is and you know, if anyone watched approved us to himself, I can tell you how to do it. First of all anytime, you watch the news you are watching at a manufactured. Why you're not seeing the real Noah weather, satellite mats, that we used to see many years ago, we're seeing animated cartoon, but there's a site. I it's a YouTube one Pacific Redwood that this guy is obviously a former meteorologist he keeps anonymous his name, but he is showing actual weather. Satellite maps. But here's the thing. That's interesting. You can see storm fronts hurricanes tropical storms, low pressure zones coming directly in the California and they're being blocked, and it's being blocked by harp technology, which are ground-based atmospheric heaters. Anyone could look this up. They're very powerful. I believe they can put out as much as three billion watts of power and can heat the upper atmosphere to fifteen hundred degrees..

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