Listen: Tony, Christopher Link, Tony Carmont Silvio discussed on Cut To Black: A Sopranos Sitdown
"Party the episode and then they have sex and then they like the carmella went camilla's all aflutter that tony's there and then they talk and they get back together. It's more interesting this way because because it's like i mean obviously tony wants tony. He's been wanting to be back because he's in his lonely dead mother's house and sometimes being lonely at the plaza hotel l. <hes> and plus it just kind of this aggravation and embarrassment of having a broken family and then carmella has been trying. Yes you kind of <hes> become independent but also still live the lifestyle. She's used to and tony's made sure that's not gonna happen been so it. Is this like mutual defeat. That's going to end up with them back together so yeah it's. I don't think i picked up on a lot of that. When i originally originally watched the show and i watched it week to week so it definitely is it felt a little bit more of a cheat on my i watch like years ago and originally usually erred but watching it now it it it's really i feel like it's way more well done in masterful in an in done in an interesting way yeah and the first together has tony sitting there <hes> trying to fix the v._c._r. like cl clicking back and forth with his remote control and she's there they're and they're talking about him being unfaithful and they're talking about her and furio and they're not yelling at each other. They're like yeah. You know like thank you did this. I did do that. It's like like popeye says i am what i am and she's like. I didn't marry a cartoon thing. He didn't like nothing. Nothing goes out of control is just like here we are and the v._c._r.'s and fixed but <hes> they're working on it and plus. It's like the setting the it is. It's almost like he's back because it is a very just when tony was in the house. This is something they would do. Anyways <hes> and it's i guess just starting to feel like a more of a possibility in a natural thing <hes> and now it's just gonna come down to like what they're going to get out of. It like whoa what's going to be beneficial for each of them to do this. Yes yes absolutely and so then. We do have a this flashback where tony be goes on his attack. I don't remember who it is that dies. It's his brother is phil's brother. Yes it's phil's brother. Whatever is you know billy phillies brother right right right. That was the thing with christopher link. You mean philly billy yeah so it's kind of an interesting way of going into it. 'cause i almost kind of lost track of what was happening when nervous i watching it because i looked away for a second but yet he's sitting down with a cigarette and then he has a flashback philly that is to the day before and billy comes out the door then tony v.'s is there and he's shooting them up and totally does not kill the guy who's trying to kill you know if you're going to go on a rampage at least get it right tony exactly that and <hes> yeah he dies in his arms and then we flashback to him still sitting there with a cigarette so the cigarettes <hes> <hes> that he's sitting there with is really just to not confuse us and go. This is happening right now. Which i guess yeah that makes sense yeah yeah and it's kinda shot and interesting way like like from his point of view <hes> bit and yeah we get we get a taste of what we missed because we're with tony and his dream <hes> then we have little carmine and i believe rusty and they're kind of like little carmine is again. It's like how did it get to this like yeah. What do you mean like what i guess that is this whole thing is that he's kind of an idiot and he calls her. What a stag meyer us and we're starting to see that in classic sopranos david chase fashion <hes> this is going to end in somewhat of an anti-climax at least this particular thing but the good thing about that is what but it's going to mean for you know our characters because they smartly like we've checked in with little carmine and rusty and stuff but they never attempted to make them kim like main characters where we hang out with them a lot. It's always just been this thing in the background and i think in the midst of it's kind of like all right what's going on but now it's becoming more clear. You're like <hes> like where things are going. I guess yeah and you're totally right about the anti-climax is like i think the last scene with little carmine in in this episode and i don't know maybe ever and he's just kinda standing there like and just from his mood we read what's up because they're like you. Gotta get out there. Put your ground. He's like that's not how i want to handle this and and like he's even kind of upset about <hes> yeah i mean his buddy who was tony b's friend in prison isn't he did get killed and i don't know that we've seen little carmine reaction sense but it's also and then another guy killed billy and he's like what happened and then like tony. I wanna you went off the reservation or whatever and he's just kind of there like ma'am. Yes stuff's hard. Yeah i wanna go back to miami. I wanna go back to hanging out in the pool cool <hes> and then we have <hes> silvio and tony <hes> discussing the tony. V.'s situation looks like they're at the crazy horse. <hes> adrianus this club <hes> chris comes in <hes> or as chris come in. I yes yes kim. Then chris comes in oh yeah like why are you late or whatever and he has that. It's a bruce springsteen line. The highways jammed with broken heroes last chance power drive. Oh you're gonna get fucking cute now and eh criticized some great lines here. He calls my smelly valentine. Turn coal into a semi colon late this is before he kills her before oh. He knows that she's an f._b._i. Agent doesn't just him being romantic and the big thing here. Christopher has a beer and not that. It's tony's fault fault but it's kind of tony's faults because last week saw member tony's like oh. Why don't you chill out once you have a drink or whatever and i mean i'd chris. I think does gal l. When he granting he does bring that up <hes> but not that's tony makes the decisions for him but you know he doesn't have to do that either he doesn't have to we have a drink chila. Your what would you yeah and i think the emotional impact of having that yell at him was greater but there is also the fact that when he actually got cleaned up and sober it was with a gun to his head with the threat of if you don't stay sober i'm gonna kill you know then that same guy tells you to have a drink like like that's gone out the window. I like i said the emotional part of it. It is tony and his relationship with him is important and what's happening with tony him. It's all affecting but like that. Part is also taken away and there's the emotional aspect so he's just like you. What ca you told me to have a drink once in a while and tony what's he gonna do like take the drink and smashes like you did tell him that you weren't joking really so fuck you tony and then we kind of have a quick little moment with tony and adriana kind of calling back to that episode where they were going to score some coke because you know he asked her like he's trying to play the nice i sky here. You know talking about her health. She asked him about the you know the mole that he had removed then you mentioned he's getting back together with carmella and in a weird way it does feel where they're like. Oh yeah this thread like you know. Things didn't happen in this episode that happened like this threads not over like tony would totally falker even if even once they're like she's married to christopher and all that he's still like keeping his his fishing pole like in the in the water. You know what i mean mm-hmm. Why did sort of see it as being like genuinely just kind of a good guy but then i'm usually wrong. I think that about tony so i think you're probably right yeah yeah <hes> so we have a meeting new york in the set that we've been in so many times <hes> that i still don't know it's like a restaurant and it has like a facade with door in it and they go through and sit at this roundtable. <hes> just wanted to call it out because i saw at this time and i was like oh yeah. I think we just keep going. This is like the new york <hes> sach realities or whatever you know yeah yeah. I'm not sure the place specifically either but yeah. It's like this bar restaurant place and it's always the new york sit down area. Yeah upped and phillies. They're saying i mean saying all sorts of shit like jarosite. Feel anyone die in your arms that you love. Tell me no and he's like well. Give it time maybe i'll make that happen like pretty open threats being thrown around and they he he he heads off but then it's still like threats against christopher and all of it and <hes> little carmine hasn't pulled out yet already pretty bad yeah frank vincent nsen is great <hes> as phil and he's i think even as this part here he's like fuck fuck them all john like and then it's interesting because yeah they send them away a._m. Tony makes the point of like you know. If they're having this sit down. He probably shouldn't be there. Because of course he is all emotional of what happened but then jonny sack doesn't jonny johnny sack like keeps that energy where he's like. He's got right down here and then yeah then he's like throw in threats around against christopher because he already hates chris i think from that time when they told him to shut up and don't say anything and then he had like one comment. I think johnny sex still mad at him for that. I don't remember that but yeah that does sound like a thing yeah. It was the whole thing where we're tony was like look. Just don't say anything because this battle in new york good for us yeah yeah they sit down here or there at dinner or something and then then christmas makes a comment like oh. It's just a shame. You guys couldn't work it out like that. Because busy remembers like his conflict resolution of whatever from his getting sober or whatever the flag it was at the time yeah and <hes> yeah that didn't really work fram either <hes> we have a random shot of like some sort of scouts or something on a beach whenever we have the senate film <hes>. There's going to be a dead body. There's never not been a dead body in this scene. It's never about exploring learning about different types of shells like can't say i'm. I'm surprised that we see a dead body. Though i did think it was going to be someone like we've seen before you know lots of people who have been dumped in the sea but it's different dead body that we're gonna learn about later yeah yeah. It's kind of interesting how they do that. 'cause 'cause i mean the body's bloated the bloated and whatever so we're kind of like oh are we supposed to know who this is <hes> but yeah all become clear then we have tony carmont silvio's and already. They're always like to see artie. Shots is in pine. Grandma bites your song okay yeah because this is where they're kind of.."