President Trump, United States, Donald Trump discussed on The Joe Piscopo Morning
Person that wants to do. Well, frankly, not caring about our country so much. And you know, what we can? You know, they have a word it sort of became session. It's called a nationalist. And I say we're not supposed to use that word. I'm a nationalist. Okay. What immediately did the American left do after President Trump declared himself to be a nationalist just to follow up on your comments about being a nationalist? There is a concern that you are sending coded language or a dog whistle to some Americans out there that what you really mean is that you were white national. I've never even heard that. I cannot imagine that previous caller did a great job in identifying this. It's almost like Jim Acosta's, Google, search you type in nationalist. Did you mean white nationalist, it is absolutely shameful? Joining us now to discuss is Rahim Qassam. He was one of the very first people to start using this term of of nationalism. He is an author. He has a Claremont institute fellow and he joins us now here on the Hugh Hewitt Show. Bob, France, sitting and working. Thank you for your time. How are you? Well, thank you. To say, I wasn't one of the first edba. Given the nationalism. Hundreds of years. In modern poems. I think we we reintroduced to political lexicon. Here in the United States. I think that's that's a that's a great point a great distinction. And let's let's talk about that as the president declared correctly when he when he tried to draw the contrast between globalism thinking more about the world's needs rather than the needs of the nation that you are elected to represent the president said that very directly that he means nationalist in that I'm gonna put my people I will worry about the concerns of us to the rest of the globe. Second. He said that national Emma's nationalism has kind of become a word that you don't use anymore. And I think we should use it again. What did he mean? And why he's right, of course, because you saw the instant reaction, right? But why did a term nationalism which when compared to globalism is a pretty benign term as far as I'm concerned that says we're concerned about our people before the world's people. Well, it was actually being wrong generous about globalism. I mean, if you think about what he's done over the pulse. Fifteen twenty years actually, hasn't really concerned itself with the rest of the world is concerned itself with a political and cultural. Around the world. Whether it's in Beijing, London or New York City of Los Angeles. Really to be addressed very very very few. Not very very very few have been exploited workers in Foxconn factories, and exposing jobs from Racine. Wisconsin. Now, the reason that Trump saying. He nationalist role. People up enrolled the media, especially because we now for several years. And I think people who have studied is by the way have seen over the course of his life, especially when he talks about trade deals, and that sort of thing, they he's had these nationalistic tendencies, but he's actually come out. And he and what he's doing by Sega is is crazy gets another dividing like he's very good at doing this finding he knows that the Clinton machine the Democrats the media one of those guys that they have to attack that line. They have to attack that I like, and they're very hard. Why wouldn't you be indefatigable even at the age of seventy whatever he is. And they have been late you log. And so they fight the idea of nationalism and into the idea that the nation state shoot to be the final albeit should be sobered is almost impossible, especially amongst Americans. I mean, you'll you'll revolution was a nationalist revolution. Hamid hamilton's. The on the subject of was a nationalist document pity Roosevelt said about having one flag, one one language and saying goodbye to the immigrant who wouldn't assimilate. He's nationalism. And they don't have arguments against that. They're angry. They're upset. From them. And I think that's what we've seen play out routes. I think that's well said the only argument they do have against that is just say to scream racism, which of course, is the, you know, the easiest argument to make Rahim Qassam is our guest he is a fellow with the Middle East forum. The gates stone institute in the Lincoln fellow at the Claremont institute. You know, the president said when he pulled out of the Paris climate accord, he said, look I care more about and I was elected by the people of Pittsburg not the people of Paris at another event he said in his first year in the presidency. I was elected president of the United States, not president of the world. How can any elected official whether he'd be president or member of our congress or anywhere else suggest otherwise your job is to represent the people that shows you not to represent the interests of outside nations, especially if it comes at the expense of those who chose you to lead them. You know? That's that's a really great point. And there's actually a fantastic book is just come out on this subject. It's it's cool virtue of nationalism up professor Yoram Zony. And he he sort of explains this, and it's a little golf. Also in by awful. I mean, the rest of the world saw kingdom. I and I'm staring at mackney. An empire that we won't have right now. You know, it's sort of what we've done historically imperialistic realistically is look to one leader of England or the holy Roman. The world is used to having in deferring power upwards to one person where they already well. Several people wherever they are the will and the world is currently doing that historically lost a few decades with the president of the United States, you how he's referred to a broad whoever is in that in in that okay is referred to as the world leader, the most powerful man in the world all of that sort of thing, and it's refreshing your set. Nope. Just I think Americans who were tied of five trillion dollars being spent in Iraq and Afghanistan, which should be no money for public schools in. It's right. I think it's refreshing for them. But it's also refreshing. It should be refreshing of the world where nations like Italy at nations like the United Nations like India, Australia, and three independence over nations. Actually, don't have. Actors protectorates anymore. They actually do have to act as independence over nations. And this is another thing. The President Trump stretches out NATO. He says, look, I'm not looking for protectorates looking for allies. And so this is a major reset what's going on. Now. And it pains me to say that when you talk about nationalism. Yes, there was a period of history with nationalism. Nationalism specifically, but very very quickly and spiraled out of control. But it pains me that people don't know that nationalism is she goes back hundreds and hundreds of years and still applies to many countries. Most countries I would say around the world. But for whatever reason, let's media. So we wanted to apply to the United States. Now, they don't not with the not without negative connotations. Obviously, not working you were a senior adviser to Nigel garage. Could you would you not suggest that Brexit in and of itself was an expression of nationalism? We're not going to be beholden to the whims of the EU. We are going to kind of take on our own charter on course, from this point forward is that not nationalism. Absolutely. I mean, you know, when you look at what the Brexit campaign represented in early late. Twenty fifty twenty sixty laws was saying, hey, we want to be ruled by Brussels. People know, this would be very surprised if many Americans knew this because it's it's not a big as they get paid about often even in the UK, but about eighty percent of our legislation was coming from Brussels before the Brexit, and that could be primary legislation or regulation. And.