Myanmar, Gambia, China discussed on Democracy Now! Audio
Innocent when you dream by Tom Waits. This is democracy now in a major ruling the UN International Court justice at at The Hague has ordered Burma to take all measures within its power to protect Roh Kinga Muslims from genocide. The court issued the ruling Thursday calling the six hundred thousand and wrote hinge remaining in Burma also known as Myanmar quote extremely vulnerable to military violence. The quartered Burma to report regularly. Late to the tribunal about its progress the rulings sharpe rebuke of Burma's de facto leader. Aung San Suu. Who last month asked the court to drop the genocide case ace against Burma Aung? SAN SUCCI is Nobel Prize laureate. She spent over a decade finding against the Burmese military. was imprisoned by hi them. She's now defending them. Gambia breath genocide case to the international court accusing Burma trying to quote destroy. There were a group in whole or in part by the use of mass murder rape and other forms of sexual violence Burmese military killed and raped thousands of routine and force more than seven hundred thousand to flee into neighboring Bangladesh in a brutal army crackdown. Crackdown in two thousand seventeen. This is wro- Hanger Refugee and novel Hassan Reacting to the court's ruling from Bangladesh though beholden vote dental my for a long term the government of Myanmar tortured owned your people. The torture too much raped our mothers and sisters killer Armando after a long time can be filed a case on behalf of the range of people in the icy J court by the grace of Allah. We gotta rule and behalf of the hinge people and for that we are very grateful to the Gambian government. Now we wait to go back to our country with our rights well for more. We go to Alicante Spain where we're joined by Reed Brody Council for Human Rights Watch via democracy now video stream. Can you talk about the significance of the ruling of the International International Court of Justice. Well you know this is the most important court in the world intervening in one of the worst atrocity mass atrocity situations of our time while the atrocities are still happening so it doesn't really get more significant than that as you mentioned. There are seven hundred thousand row hinges. Who have been displaced into Bangala dash hundreds of thousands in camps in command mar now? Their situation obviously doesn't just change overnight but as as as the young row as a young girl hang and poet a said my brothers and sisters the door to us. This has opened today so I think you know this is. This is a huge huge decision. And as you said it's a huge rebuke to on-song Suci into the military in Burma. Can you explain. That sounds to chase position. I mean she is is a Nobel peace laureate. She's long now. Defended the Burmese military in its genocide against the people. The row hindu-muslim the Muslims and actually went to The Hague to testify on the military's behalf the military which imprisoned her and she fought against four decades. Ah Codes well obviously she she. She's thrown her lot in with the military and she I think she was showing domestic public opinion in that she hates the row Hinga as much as many others. Do I mean. Let's remember that this is one of the most hated persecuted minorities not in the world and I was reminded by this decision of the genocide conviction in Guatemala against Rio so smart in which the the Highland Mayan Indians among the most marginalized people in America's not as marginalized as zero hang up were recognized as a group and their and their rights were protected as victims of genocide. I think the same thing is happening today. On never mentioned and the government of Myanmar their response to the yesterday's ruling never uses either the word row Hinga but the court the International Court of Justice to highest court in the world said there were Hanger Group and they're entitled to protection from genocide. I think that's that's you know that's a major moment not just for the row Hinga but for Internet now notice the enforcement mechanism. I mean this court the International Court of Justice apart of the UN you went. What does this mean well? Theoretically the decisions are binding and they're transmitted to the Security Council. Now we know the Security Council China has veto and so the Security Council will not enforce the judgment but the court did sit first of all the court established a reporting requirement. Every said the first in four months the government of Burma has to account for what it's doing and then every six months thereafter drafter. So it's almost like a court supervision of what's going on the General Assembly can take it up. The Human Rights Council in Geneva can take it up. I think the weather weather Myanmar applies this decision. It's going very much depend on the international pressure That will come. I mean they were told not to destroy evidence. Well we can see and we have seen in the past through aerial photos where they're destroying evidence so so this is going to be you know it's obviously going to take a lot But there is an enforcement possibility and a mechanism that's going to depend and not international pressure. And can you talk about Gambia. Bringing this case the speed with which the I. C. J. Ruled and what about other cases in the world where so many have died for example in Syria. What's happening with the IRS? And China of any any of these cases been broader even what the. US is doing in the Middle East and Iraq war etcetera and the killing of Qassem Suleimani any. Well of course you know the in terms of Gambia. I have to say you know I work in Gambia. Work closely. With the Attorney General there and and Gambia took this case on behalf of the Organization of Islamic cooperation. To protect the Moslems row Hinga Gotcha and the Attorney General of the Gambia. An happened to have been a prosecutor of the Rwandan genocide and he. He felt that he was seeing the same thing happened and he took the leading as a wonderful back story. That really legitimizes. This very a rare instance of south South Solidarity Gambia. Slow Gambia sticking up for a minority all the way across the world. It's interesting that you mentioned China and the workers because the when the organ oh I see the Organization of Islamic. The cooperation with should be standing up as well for the minority in China instead because of China's not only military might right but also China has the unprecedented campaign by China to silence international critics. It was the topic. Actually Human Rights Watch World Report last week the OIC Muslim countries in the world actually adopted a REP statement praising in China for how they care for the Muslim minority so in many ways this is a question of political balance of power. In this case. Burma's power is not the same internationally as China's the case of Syria a again. There's a veto Russia. Syria has not ratified these conventions and Russia can veto and China. China can veto any accountability mechanism at that level. Now there are a lot of cases around the world where individual countries in France Germany and other places have arrested and are prosecuting people Syrian officials who have engaged in repression? But of course it's not the same as going to the state and going to the top. We want to thank you so much. Sure being with US Reed Brody Council for Human Rights. Watch when we come back. We look at a major victory mom for housing in Oakland California back in thirty seconds.