William, Supreme Court discussed on Think 100%: The Coolest Show


I credit. The the people like you who have just been so firm in raising the importance of elevating people of color in this dialogue. The what. I'm seeing very quickly. Is incredible receptivity in eagerness frankly to say how do we do this. How do we do this right. And how do we not only not only change the paradigm of giving to the same groups that we've always given but how do we truly just make the space about the people who are the most impacted. So it's it's a long. It's a long answer but it's actually a process that is about simply peeling away. The layers of assumptions that we have and end end assumptions. That that foundations have assumptions that our society has that That people of color people in our community don't know what we need. When that could be further from the truth we absolutely no in need and we know how to get there and if we can actually get in there and do it. it's going to get done amen. Amen and amen out will man. So i'd have to look at this. Time does so so so fat at two more questions for you I wanna make sure we have a lot of young folks who listened to the coolest show and this conversation And so i wanna make sure with your background Because a lot of them are engaged with demonstration but demonstration without litigation leads to frustration. And i want you to break down for them. The you've had so many cases from rental justice and what you've worked on And man a we gotta have. You can make that whole william the conversation we gotta talk about next time but this piece explained to them the importance of environmental litigation and how is difficult because literally how the cases work it goes out of the public eye. But it's still happening until that time. He then they losing momentum but actually is going through the legal processes and that when it to begin to be ready to get ready to move again. Be three years later. We'll five years later and you're or it could be way out there mark so this explain the importance of litigation walk on with movement absolutely litigating. Well that's why. I actually went to one of the bigger rain at a natural resources council was when i was in law school. I learned exactly what you were talking about which you know. I consider myself pretty informed on law school. But i didn't understand every aspect of how regulations and things like that a lot of these. We know about laws. We learn about laws but we don't often learn about these other policies and regulations that really have just incredible impact on our lives. And that's what motivated me to become a an environmental attorney And and would really drew me to. Nc in particular. Because so many cases that i was reading involved in our dc bend so much of this work on the regulatory side With gets in the weeds but in an s in essence which saying right. There's this whole other process of things that happen End illegal fights legal challenges. That happen out of out of our i big. They're not in the news because they they're they're not you know scandalous enough. Although i are you that that they should be Because they really are and they really impact us all but environmental litigation is critical to this fight because we do have laws we have incredible environmental laws if they are implemented if they are used if they're not people who pollute aren't finding workarounds eh. It's wide so important to vote and it's why it's important right now that we're having a conversation about the supreme court justice appointment because every single case every single time something is is not happening the way that it should in the environment as lawyers. We wanna look for a legal or regulatory hook. Something that we can say you broke this law and therefore we wanna stop you. We wanna stop year actions and the law requires that you stop your actions so what. That's what that's meant for us. So far is what that meant Us as the environmental movement and in all of us is that we've been able to stop pollution in waterways. We've been able to stop air pollution. We've been able to Sure that the pesticides that are on our food or actually studied by scientists. These are all things that that corporations don't really want us doing. You know they'd much rather just put out junk and dump wherever they want an end so loyal we have an opportunity to get in there and and challenged that not only challenge that but also challenge an administration. Lets you know a whether it's this administration or other administrations to do the right thing because oftentimes laws around the book. they just. They're just not doing it. They either aren't getting the money they need or they just don't care enough or they're getting pressure against enforcing the laws. So we we bring. We can bring lawsuits that represent people that represent real problems and we can bring about change that is legally enforceable meaning. There's a time line it has to happen. Sadly it takes a while some of these cases take years but every single one of them matters even the ones that may not always be a huge success. Because what we're doing is we're again laying the foundation for future challenges And and actually using our legal system which as as much as as. It's not perfect because it sure isn't that's our conversation for next time is it. There are very much a legal legal consequences to the actions. That are being taken Because the.

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