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And they're telling us to negotiate up on this issue to me, that means background checks on every single firearm purchase banning find back every single assault weapon in America, taking them out of our churches synagogues and mosques, and leaving them only on battlefields. But also understanding the gun violence in San Francisco, or Chicago, or many communities that are ravaged by violence for different reasons that are not related to these mass shootings, and I've toured the cities, I've been to eight cities in the last couple of weeks was recently in the south side of Chicago and block activists, there woman who taken over a couple of blocks, told me, you look at these murders, the wrong way, she said, you only see them as murders, but I also see them as suicides. And I said, what do you mean? She said the person pulling the trigger. Hungry. Probably doesn't know where they're going to sleep that night looking over his shoulder scared and wants to die and that part, I never really understood that I was a prosecutor in Oakland. And I thought I understood a lot of the causes of gun violence. But when she said that person wants to die. I pushed her little, why do they want to die? What do you mean she said, they're not going to take their own life? They know though if they get into an altercation, and they shoot somebody else, chances are the friends of that person going to come back and retaliate against them, and they're going to die. And they and she said to me. And when you live in a community like this, why would they wanna live to be thirty or forty? So those are structural issues of a lack of jobs healthcare, and education, that go much deeper than just a background check or an assault weapons ban. And so I've seen those communities and I wanna make sure that we don't just pass crime bills to address what's happening that you pass a hope Bill so that there's a hopeless that there's, there's hope in that community living longer pays off, and it means. I think that it may be an easier sell than some urban cities. But in rural areas, this is a different. It's a different issue. And people think about it differently. You're from Iowa. You were born there. Actually, I know you've spent a lot of the time there. What, what are the conversations you're having more rural states? And how are people there, reacting to some of these proposals? Well, I say keep your rifles, keep your shotguns, keep your pistols, but we can still take the most dangerous weapons away from the most dangerous people in nothing. I'm proposing would limit someone's ability to go hunting would limit someone's ability to protect their house. Shotgun or go to the shooting range. You know, in fire off a nine millimeter their friends, because they like to shoot for sport or just it's fun. I went to shooting range, a couple of weeks ago in my district with a bunch of veterans to talk about veterans issues and do what they like to do, which is shoot and it was fun. And there's, there's no reason that you can't have that in our society. But also say that if you have a criminal conviction, or if you are suffering from illness that you shouldn't be able to have access to a firearm in most most gun owners. They believe that to over seventy percent of NRA own gun owners when polled so that they believe we should have background checks. So the NRA is not only out of step with most Americans throughout a step with their own members congressman swallow individuals and families across our country are increasingly concerned about the affordability and availability of healthcare, your calling for healthcare for all. What does that look like and do you support single payer? I don't support single payer. I do believe that we should have a healthcare. Guarantee that if you're sick you're seeing. And if you're seeing you don't go broke to me that is Medicare for anyone who wants essentially a public option, if you like your private health care insurance, if you're in a union plan, and that's more, forcible, you should be able to keep that. But also, it it's a belief that the government has a responsibility to provide an affordable accessible plan where you're not charged more because you have a preexisting condition. And so that, that would be my healthcare plan rooted in a belief that is Americans. We really value choice that a single payer plan would only be government. And I think it's so part of our DNA that we want to have choice, but the government has a much bigger responsibility to provide healthcare. I don't want to just talk about coverage though. And I think what's so unique about our generation, especially in a city with UCSF in the backdrop here cures in our lifetime is something that the next president, should challenge, our generation to be a part of the c- investments in genomics investments in data sharing and targeted therapies is a way to bring down the cost extend the quality of life. But also invest in that research, and a lot of communities, that are disconnected and see that as a way to create new jobs. I want to challenge us to do that. I think our generation. Is up for it. If you're just joining us on the radio, you're listening to road to the White House. A conversation with California, congressman and presidential candidate, Eric swell. I'm Aretha law goes from cake. Along with Carl Gorgino of the Silicon Valley leadership group. Let's talk about another huge issue, one that you've actually I think talk about it is not climate change, but climate chaos, which was kind of interesting. Way to to talk about it. I guess from a political perspective. How important is it for Democrats to make this a centerpiece in twenty twenty because I think that it's been a challenge for Democrats to message on this in a way that really breaks through, and doesn't quite frankly, just kind of freak people out, not to freak people out, but I call it chaos. Because sometimes change can be good. And there's nothing good about what's happening with our with our climate. And in fact, chaos is the fire seasons that we now have that I believe is caused by climate in part, chaos in the hundred year flood or the five hundred year flood every other year now in the mid west, and chaos would be the unseasonable hurricane seasons that we're also seeing in the southeast. So I think we should call it, what it is to bring the urgency to the issue, but I recognize the challenge on this issue. And the challenge is that you have a lot of people who work in the fossil fuel economy, not necessarily here in the bay area. Although we do have fossil fuel companies headquartered in the bay area, but there are pipe fitters and laborers and people who have good paying jobs connected to fossil fuels who when you talk to them about the green new deal they get really nervous and they think that it's abruptly going to take away their job. And they've told me before when you vote against my pipeline pipeline that I'm working on to me. You're just voting against my job and I want to take away that false choice. And I think here's how we do it by investing in direct air captured technologies essentially carbon capture carbon sequestration carbon reuse put those technologies at those fossil fuel sites so that they can come down to carbon neutral or carbon negative. Those workers can keep working, and keep supporting the families, but invest in the next generation of energy wind and solar infusion, doing out the Lawrence, Livermore, National lab, and Sandia national lab in my district. That's the future of energy give a skills bridge to that next generation of workers, so they can work in that new energy economy. And when you address climate chaos in our country. It doesn't start an argument. It starts to workday. That's how we did it right. Congressman soi. Well, I'm line. Privacy is a growing concern for for many Americans, particularly parents, like myself and yourself, some tech companies like Facebook have tried to get ahead of the problem with their own policies, but states like California and the entire European Union have gone much farther than the United States. How big of a role should the federal government have in regulating privacy rights, particularly for minors and should consumers be able to sue companies who they believe violated those rights. Yes. And yes, I believe we can have the connectivity that we have been through Facebook through Twitter and stuff and other platforms, but still have some ownership or some expectation of privacy and a way to hold companies accountable when they violate that I don't think they're at odds with each other. I would like to see us have a national privacy law and have more awareness. For consumers about how our privacy is being used just as Europe has recently undertaken. I would like to see us have a breach notification law. So if there is a breach in our data is stolen in a company who holds that data. No longer halted or it's in the hands of someone who would use it and enough areas way, there should be a federal law that requires a company to tell us about it. I also believe that when it comes to competitive competitiveness, we need to understand if it's really if these platforms, are really free, meaning that there's no cost to use Facebook or use Google or to us. Twitter. But if our data is being sold or targeted against us. What's the social cost, or if other small companies are being gobbled up and jobs are diminishing? What's the social cost? I think we can have all of that, as long as we just appreciate how the data's being used and what's the real cost to the economy. That's why I think next generation leader is president who understands how this economy is changing artificial intelligence and automation. And in how data and privacy works is critically important to have that person in the White House, and you also know that he is a very prolific tweeter Instagram are he has his own hashtag, for coming sometimes. Swallowing the just some of the tweets just some of the tweets the staff the can change the password. We'll let let me tell you a quick personal story, three years ago, I was driving, my Toyota Prius, down, five eighty the ultimate paths and my back, right? Wheel blew out and I almost hit the big semi next to me after hit that speed bump in my tire literally exploded pulled over to the side of the road. I was in between areas where the tow truck could find me and I stood there on that narrow shoulder for three hours waiting for help in. I tweeted about it the congressman MDC tweeted back in my staff, come and pick you up. So that is customer service. And are you even a constituent, I mean you're outside of US District will if he becomes president than I will? All are more serious note, another issue around online content. That's really come in the news lately, as Dr videos, we saw the ones that speaker Pelosi these deep fake reductions, which are I think, even more concerning because they can make it look like somebody said or did something that they didn't do you agree with the speaker that Facebook should've taken down that video. And, and how do you think private companies should balance? The first amendment concerns with the real sort of threats were saying, these types of it is the first amendment right to speech is such a treasure in. It's something that not every country has. But we've seen that freedom has been weaponized and used against us, and we're struggling with how do we balance someone's right to post something on Facebook and criticize its government, which is inherent in our constitution against the distortion that we're seeing and four. Adversaries, who are doing this as well to try and exert influence in our elections. I just happen to believe. I mean, I Facebook is not the public square right? So, like the freedom of speech, does not extend to Facebook, the that's not the public square the freedom freedom of speech is in the public square like going to city hall, and putting whatever you want on a poster Facebook is a private company so they can make decisions about standards of conduct in the community. I think because you're talking about the speaker of the house, and in, because they distorted what she was doing in such a way that you would de legitimize a duly elected official in not identifying it as a parody, but, but putting it out. It's real that, that does diminish our democracy in the risk of allowing that type of content to pervade is greater than. Any threat to the freedom of speech. Well, let me push back on that, these aren't easy, call right because Facebook to your point is a private company and should we trust them to make those decisions on the one hand on the other hand, you know, online has become sort of default public, where it is where people go to trade information and to educate themselves. So I feel like you know, there is some argument to be made that, that there's a free speech, sort of. Right, wherever you're making that speech, but also how how how much sort of trust should we put in a private company to make those calls. You know it's not not an easy question. And you would doing what you're suggesting would turn Facebook into a utility right in that, that is that. I don't think that should be taken off the table. I mean, I think that's a discussion. We need to have is Google and Facebook as they are more widely used in adopting. What is the public square responsibility? They have because that is the new public scribe again. I think that's a next generation issue that needs to be addressed. I just happen to believe that, you know, you don't want a lot to allow a post like that, too. So chaos. When it's not clear that it's a parody and you're suggesting the people that, you know, the speaker of the house, the second in line to the presidency. Has a health issue or isn't. Well, I mean, that's you know, once you allowed that to just continue to happen over and over. I think we just lose a sense of legitimacy in our leaders and that's not good. Again, the truth is we, we can't legislate against that. Facebook as I said, as a private company, I think they're paying a bigger price in the backlash because of it had just taken down. We're going to take a short break and return with more of our town hall with East Bay congressman and twenty twenty presidential candidate Eric's while while. You're listening to road to the White House on K. Q. E D public radio..