Marijuana, United States, Canada discussed on Coast to Coast AM with George Noory


Welcome back to coast to coast back with Richard Stratton, of course, and your phone calls as well, Richard. You're telling us a whimsical story. Do you wanna finish it? Well, I was telling you actually about seeing what the the the devastation that was Kari caused by these planes that were spraying paraquat. Yeah. Fields of marijuana in Mexico. And and it was looked like a big black smudge on the side of this. This mountain across from where I was in the guy told me that when they sprayed it there were kids out there and the kids had died. I mean, just you know, for what I mean, it didn't it doesn't stop anything. But. Probably spraying us anyways Richards book is called smuggler's blues. And I assume you can get this at bookstore style, Richard. You can get into bookstores. You can get it at Amazon it is available. I think from Barnes and noble, and yeah, it's out today. Today's the day perfect timing as the publishing day. Yeah. And smuggler's blues is the first of a trilogy. The second book is called gulag America the prison years, and it tells the whole story of my eight years in prison and then the third book, which I'm just beginning on now it's called in the world. And that's about getting out and how difficult it is to to readjust to to society. You know, often say that it might have been different. If I had kids, I I'm grateful of the fact that I didn't have kids when I went away because you know, to to break that been hard. Yeah. That's the other thing about locking people up is it you destroy families. You know when you put somebody. In prison for fifteen years. Ten years that family is without a breadwinner there without that element of the family. And a lot of women are getting locked up these drug laws too. So it's really done its our longest war. It's been going on since the thirties. It's probably, you know, it's an and it's a war against the American people. It's like, it's very very destructive. Although, of course, for for law enforcement, it's been a boon because it's after prohibition these agencies federal agents were looking for something to do, and they needed something to do and Harry answering came up with the idea of criminalizing marijuana, and, you know, going after after drugs, that's where the whole drug war began many people, percentage wise, do you think are in jail because of petty drugs. Well, they say that sixty percent of the population. That's in prison prisoners there for non violent drug related offenses. So that's that's a huge huge proportion. Now, there may be even more that got into Bank robbery or something like that because. Yeah. Because of that and off-shoot sure. So so it's probably I if you if you look at the effect of illegal drugs on the coal crime control establishment. It's probably much more. It's probably even higher than sixty percent is Jilin drugs at the basis of a lot of why these guys go out, and rob banks is they need money to pay for these exorbitant prices for for these illegal drugs. Well, you know, we talked about the the cost of prisons. What about the DA how much do they cost us the DA caustic tremendous amount? But also, you know, now, it's homeland security, you know, up in the Canadian US sport is they've got drones. And you know, our friend Mr. Trump wants to build a wall down on the Mexican border. So any it's it's unbelievable. How much money they spend trying to stem the the drugs. I mean, he was the one who said most of these guys are drug dealers coming into the country, which I think is crazy because if you're a drug dealer, you're gonna stay in Mexico. You don't wanna come to this country, you send your drugs to the summer driving? She wants to drugs here. Put them on mules. Right. Yeah. I mean chapeau didn't want to come to the United States because he knew that he wasn't getting out if he came here. Now, he says he wants to come here. Oh, really he wants to go to the wants to go to court here or something like that. Who knows who knows? When you were. You were in Lebanon. Right. I was in Lebanon. I was in Beirut. It was gorgeous during the time. You were probably there. Right. Well, actually when I first went there. It was gorgeous bay was the the Paris of the Middle East. Sure was wonderful city. But then the civil war broke out. Yeah. Okay. The years that I spent there in fact, I I write about it in the book, I barely escaped there in the in the early eighties. When the Israelis invaded it got really intense. And I the only way I could get out of the airport was closed. I had to go actually backup through the valley and get to Damascus and Syria and fly out of Syria because you couldn't get out of the country. It was it was terrible. What happened in that country run into any people from ISIS? Oh, they didn't have ISIS standard. There was no ice in those days. Believe it or not. Let's go to Charlie in Arizona now. Hey, charlie. Thanks for holding. You're up with us. Good evening, Georgia and Witcher. My call. I have two quick questions. And I come and the first question is what is your opinion of the legalization of all drugs in in Portugal? And the statement that was made by good push beheads that in ten years. Yeah. Consumption had gone down by fifty percent. My second question is what do you think of the new drug war? That's being fought on the backs of visit will people in chronic pain. And my comment is is ludicrous for the government to sagging cannabis his Giga one when they have a sold prescription THC for years and years as marrying off which is a derivative of marijuana. Of course. Right. Okay. Thanks for that, Charlie. Go ahead, Richard. Well, Charlie I think you're absolutely right about the situation in Portugal. I mean, that's the really interesting thing. They've legalize all drugs in Portugal, and the drug usage has gone down the criminality has gone down. It's proven everything that we've been talking about tonight. Now, what was the second question? He was talking about. What about the the gosh, I dunno while the life. I wrote that down to go ahead, Charlie the new drug war. Oh, the new drug well on the backs of disabled disabled chronic pain, while I've always been a believer in medicinal use of marijuana to help people. I mean, I was an advocate of that back in one thousand nine hundred ninety seven. Yeah. There's no question that all various kinds of pain are relieved with Canada, swift THC. So it just you know, my my my idea is they should all be legalize. It should be controlled not necessarily by the government. But by a. Yes by clinics, and by a national advisory council of people who understand this this product is this plant and advise people how to use it because it can be dangerous. There's no question about it. You know, anytime that you are inhaling Kohl's and smoke into your lungs can it because it can cause problems for you. So I don't say that, you know, people should just go out and start smoking pot. No, I'm saying that we should we should study it we should legalize it, and we should make it valuable, but we should teach kids, particularly I don't believe the young kids should be smoking pot. I don't think that I mean, certainly when the brain still developing it's it's proven that. It's not a good thing to be smoking pot. Do anything, you know, to be smoking cigarettes or alcohol or anything to you till you're at least well into your teams in probably in your twenties before you should ideally. I think that people shouldn't be necessarily using drugs at all, except if they have a chronic situation that needs will leaf I happen to believe that recreational marijuana is not harmful. But as long as you don't overdo it. So it, you know, it just we need really to as I said instead of just saying, no, it's just a K N O W saying, no drug education is the answer to this content. Like the like Portugal that it's going to go down not up. Absolutely. There's no question the forbidden fruit will be taken away. And it's not going to be so. You know, you're doing something illegal. Let's go to Brian in Montreal. Hi, brian. Go ahead. Yeah. Great topic. I was one of those hippy mafia guys you were talking about. I got blessed with almost four hundred pounds of pot in New Jersey in the seventies. And what does that look like Brian four hundred pounds of pot? If you had to look at it would be big data days is they they compressed it, and they had it in bales. And it was an interesting situation when they let me out with the like, I was I was actually I'm Canadian. So I wasn't an. I couldn't work in the U S. The US. So they. Parole office when they released being they said, we don't expect you to stay in the US because you can't earn a living. But when we don't show up for your parole hearing. Officer mccleary days for a while as you. So I went home and I don't smoke anymore. I agree one hundred percent education. That's the way to go. And technically thirty five years later, I still on a parole violation. Well, you know, it's interesting calling from Canada. My partner was a Canadian. He was called the hippie. Godfather of Canada, this guy Robert rose Rowbotham was his name from Toronto. He was part of the the whole college up there forget the name of it now. But it was right in downtown Toronto. So the Canadians have always been the way ahead of the Americans as far as I think Trudeau is talking about legalizing federally in Canada now. But there they they don't give you as much time in Canada, the prisons are much more geared towards towards rehabilitation than the US prisons there. There are a lot more advanced than Canada. But this case that I was talking about earlier that happened in Syracuse. They they extradited fourteen Canadians. It was the largest single expedition of Canadian citizens on one case to bring them back into the US to try them for this marijuana conspiracy. And they were bringing. In over the mohawk Indian reservation in the northern part of name. I mean, the northern part of New York state, and they gave these two guys from Montreal. Well, one of them was from macho I think the other one might have been from somewhere Ottawa, but they gave them life without parole. Wow. These guys are never going to get out of prison richer. What do you think of entrapment laws? I mean to to be able to create a crime to catch somebody..

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