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The Brian Lehrer show on WNYC good morning everyone tonight democratic presidential climate change forum on CNN is now being framed by a real life disaster that many scientists are saying can probably be linked to the warming earth and that of course is hurricane Dorian for one thing according to The New York Times this pattern where hurricane strolls in one place for hours like Dorian did over the Bahamas that's a sign of climate change will explain why about that and more as we open the program today with three short interviews about the Dorian emergency and the larger climate change crisis with us first is New York times Miami bureau chief. from this day currently covering Dorian Patricia thanks so much for some time on an intensely moving assignment K. for you obviously welcome to W. NYC thanks for having me and first things first we've all been hearing about the devastation in the Bahamas what can people here do if they want to help in some way. well there is a robust Bahamian community in South Florida out that has organized to send donations and there haven't figured out quite how to get them yet they've got various planes ready to go but you know they they need to be cleared for landing and people have really turned out to to offer all the help that they can you know what a lot of organizations like the red cross and other NGOs will tell you is that cash helps them you know just just money donations to be flexible with what the needs are but what I've heard from people who have already flown over the Bahamas and as a liver some supplies is that you know everything you can think of starting with water and other basic necessities including hygiene products are are very necessary right now. then after devastating the Bahamas Dorian is now causing hundreds of thousands of evacuations to be ordered maybe it's more than a million people you know better than I do from coastal communities in parts of Florida up to the Carolinas what's the extent of the movement of people in the U. S. now. in Florida V. evacuations were limited to some vulnerable a beach front communities they learned from these accusations a couple of years ago in hurricane Irma where many more people moved that that was not the wisest course of action for a storm like this that moves from south to north and effects such a broad swath of the state because then people are left on the roads and don't know really where to go well the storm is sort of following them so here the evacuations were for what some official side were miles not hundreds of miles where some people just were asked to move inland to be away from the storm surge there are more about evacuations right now in not in Georgia and the Carolinas because the storm track has appeared to move slightly closer to the northern Georgia and and South Carolina coast still perhaps not land fall but as we know storms hi does not have to cross into land for the storm surge to be dangerous your article today is a heart wrenching description of some of the specific challenges of getting elderly people in nursing homes and assisted living facilities to safety what's the big picture of that. this was another lesson from past storms where you know sort has a large retiree preparation population and they wanted to make sure that didn't have a repeat of sweltering conditions of the power went out for some of these people that proved to be deadly during her can hear about twelve people died and recently for workers from the nursing home where were charged because those deaths were deemed homicides this time they have made sure that places have better up power generators and and backed up but they had to evacuate some some places that we're just in danger of flooding that there's a lot of communities in northeast Florida especially Jacksonville and Saint Augustine that flooded in past storms even when the storm did not hit them directly those plans were put into place and according to the state people got out as needed and and hopefully the storm would be as bad as as it could have been and and my despair all there was the tragedy of a dozen people who died two years ago during Irma in a nursing home lost all its air conditioning in a power outage I mean this is you know not Florida's first rodeo when it comes to hurricanes and neither was Irma would they have the systems down Pat by now. you know on the one hand you would think that Florida is perhaps the best prepared state because we do get so many hurricanes on the other hand every emergency manager will tell you that every storm is different and that they learn something each time and so my did require new regulations and the state law setting higher and marched at more strict standards for what the power back up had to be at nursing homes especially including that they have to keep comfortable temperatures for people who are who are really vulnerable to the heat I think some of those regulations were first tested last year during hurricane Michael which hit the panhandle but a lot of places still don't have all the equipment in place that they should especially nursing homes which tend to be larger are still you know it takes awhile for them to make these investments to over there for structure and so I think that's going to be an ongoing process for the state so now the climate change angle and I know.