Mexico, Two Dozen, Two Thousand discussed on Think 100%: The Coolest Show
I don't i mean. How did i end up there. I have no idea but what they taught me in this place that i ended up which was called oaxaca in mexico. What they taught me was that clean energy development crew replicate the inequality of the fulfill system so that began me on this journey of the climate justice expert and energy distance caller and You know and so on and so forth. So i have no idea why i. I made the choices i made. I mean other than i was falling my heart. I wanted to do good and now in this role. I'm able to talk to you. Know the folks in the movement with whom i have these deep relationships than connection other academics. Been doing this work. Because that is the work that i did and academics across disciplines because i run interdisciplinary teams. And you know. And i'm with other government servants. And so i'm able to to be in conversations with them so all along the way i was picking tool that paired me for this moment and i can only in some ways. I know you're covered though. I can only say that it was divinely. Inspired right like someone had a plant. There is a plan out there. And i was following that plan but i didn't know that that was what was in store for me so i feel very fortunate that i listened that i followed. That intuition said this what. I need to be doing not knowing what the big picture. What the how dick's what unfolds. No no no. Listen i'm from. I'm from down south as you know in so The oh folks was say you know what was meant for evil. God will turn the good and so that autos autos things that was actually used to harm us of exact same that now is our is our is our armor and weapon so You you are you are you are the epitome. So you are right where you are supposed to be That's without a doubt And it is. It is divinely. Ordered every every single good step and bass that got you will. You are so. That's that's the amazing part about that. Chalan na na most definitely mention that was very important. I wanted to make sure that. I heard it. I'll make sure come back to it. You said was indigenous members who were not only protesting fossil fuels but also clean energy Light and that i think linked to energy poverties. But you break that down. How does that happen. Sure so this place called oaxaca. Hockey is a state in mexico. It is the second poorest state in mexico and it's in the south west corner of the of the country it's next to get atarot which is an interesting fascinating for anybody who wants to go to mexico. I i encourage you to travel. They'll get it is interesting because it's It's a place where there are a lot of afro. He kinda threw like people who were Escaped enslaved people for me communities. And i have interesting stories about traveling deep into the mountains. There where i. I got off a bus like a little bitty bus that looked out and people looked at me and her like who are you. So but that's another story so the state of guerrero is interesting and then hockey is next to it. And then next to a hawk on the other side shoppers and a lot of people know about shopping at the place of social justice and moved them building But how is sandwiched between the m atlantic and pacific oceans. And there's this sort of narrow belt of land called the isthmus of toronto peck which is where the wind wind blows. Nearly constantly in it actually has some of the highest Get a wind power in the world. And that's according to map that were put together by the national renewable energy laboratory which part of the department of energy so these maps showed that walker was extraordinarily windy and in the early two thousands The the country and with with assistance from the world bank decided that they would begin to build wind projects there so the only problem is the people who lived there were indigenous and they relied on the land to support Assistance we have lice. It'd be were farmers. They were There fishermen and this is an area of extraordinary diversity. People there are from different indigenous groups. So they're not necessarily connected genealogical there you know connected to the land and in many ways and These people were essentially didn't speak spanish but they were signing contracts in spanish essentially finding away their rights to their lead and these wind Wind project developers coming in. And you know kind of swindling neighbors dividing them up And there were those who had been involved in various movements to realize that this was a similar kind of extractive form of development. That was a way to harm the people in this region so they started to organize and they saw that. There is kind of a big picture. thing that was unfolding and not this is just the beginning so again started in the two thousand and between around two thousand eight or so until we've seen two dozen two dozen wind projects go into this region I can't pull the the statistic on the number of wind turbines but we're talking about huge acid winter by the require around two hundred pounds of concrete her winter by and so now there are twenty two hundred megawatts which is extraordinary of power. That is installed in this region and oaxaca has the highest concentration of onshore wind in the in the world and so all this is happening without any consultation of indigenous people which is an international principal and also embedded in mexico's law. Most on people have people have died because they were protesting this again very benefit. Any we're going to the local population and they were living and continue to live in energy poverty. So they're living in. The shadow of this generation without any access to the power is being generated. I mean they're still kind of you. Know living with lamp. Living with you know just in a very basic way in terms of energy access and so the people that there's this development happening all around. Why are we not benefiting and also it's destroying our landscape. If you go to this place you'll just see the landscape completely dotted with with wind turbine That have really disrupted the local The local landscape folks there say we're not opposed to development but we're opposed to development like this. The way that they're doing it is is again the same model that we see with auto fuel. It's destroying the landscape. And so we gotta do we. We know we have to do this. Clean energy trends. The that's gonna save black and brown people. We know that we need to make sure that they're involved in this process that they can tell you sort of where to say these projects And they can get economic benefits. They can get lifted out of poverty. That's how we do this transition away but just it's.