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So send subpar rental search sites packing, and visit apartments dot com to find your perfect place apartments dot com change her apartment change the world. Eighteen eighty Republican national convention ran from June second to eighth of that year and then on June ninth the day after it was over the New York Times ran a profile of the party's new vice presidential nominee, which stated, quote, general Chester a Arthur was born in Franklin county, Vermont October fifth eighteen thirty on June eleventh, the Saint John's break Caledonian of Saint John's brave Vermont wrote, quote, the papers say, Chester a Arthur was born in Lang's, Enberg, New York, fifty years ago, but as father used to live in Vermont, and some say the candidate was born in Fairfield on June twelfth the carbon advocate of Lee. Heightened Pennsylvania published an article that said he had been born in Vermont in eighteen thirty one the Abbeville press and banner of Abbeville, South Carolina published an article on the twenty third that said Arthur had been born in Albany in eighteen thirty one he was born seventeen. Times in various places. A little later in eighteen eighty General James as Brisbane published a biography for the campaign called from the towpath to the White House, the early life and public career of James a Garfield Major General USA, the record of a wonderful career, which like that of ABRAHAM LINCOLN by native energy and untiring industry, led this man, from obscurity to the foremost physician in the councils of the nation, including a sketch of the life of honorable Chester. A Arthur moment of silence for these fabulous titles. The text follows the same pattern as the titles spending more than five hundred pages on Garfield biography and Twenty-three on Arthur's with five of those being the text of Arthur speech, accepting the nomination Brisbane gives Arthur's date and place of birth as October fifth eighteen thirty in Fairfield Franklin county, Vermont, though, it's clear from just these examples, which are just some of the reporting around all of this. There was some confusion about exactly when and where Arthur was born I found zero references from eighteen eighty that said that he was born in Fairfield Vermont, on October fifth eighteen twenty nine which is what's considered correct today, by the late fall and early winter of eighteen eighty this lack of clarity about wearing win. Are there had been born head grown to include suspicion that wherever it was? It was not in the United States in article published on December twenty third eighteen eighty. The second daily record union read, quote a lawyer of Brooklyn has been investigating in Vermont, to see if Chester a Arthur was not really born on Canadian soil and left, apparently pleased with his discoveries old residents say there is no question of Arthur, being a citizen. The Brooklyn lawyer being referenced was Arthur p Henman, who in some accounts had been hired by the Democrats, and in others was an anti stalwart Republican. He really could have been both those things at the same time at first him and believe that Arthur had been born in Ireland. But he gradually started focusing on the idea that he might really be Canadian, he traveled to the Vermont Quebec of border area to interview people about what they remembered of the Arthur, family, and their baby boy from fifty years before later on in eighteen eighty four when Arthur was pursuing a nomination for reelection. Henman published these eighteen hundred findings in a book, titled how a British subject became president of the United. States without really citing any sources hinman allege that after being nominated for vice president Arthur couldn't say where he had been born hinman also alleged that Arthur had gone to Montreal after the Republican national convention to see if there was any evidence of his birth records, there, there is no evidence for either of these assertions. Although the day after the convention ended the New York Times did publish a column called campaign notes, which paraphrased Roscoe conquering as saying, he might spend some time that summer fishing with Arthur in Canada. Def Henman's content and was this was not a fishing trip. It was a go. See if you're out and if so cover it up trip, hin bins key witness was a quote MRs Stevens who had been a playmate and companion of MRs Arthur went at school. According to hinman MRs Stevens said that Chester Arthur's mother Melvina had given birth to her oldest boy on March sixteenth eighteenth eighteen twenty eight at her. Parents house in Dunham flats and Quebec. Mrs Stevens remembered that it was one day off from Saint Patrick's Day, but she couldn't really remember in which direction, it was one day off of Saint Patrick's Day, this baby. According to her was named William Chester Alan Arthur, hinman went on to say that in November of eighteen thirty Melvina Arthur had delivered another son Chester able Arthur, while living in Fairfield, Vermont Chester able had then died in eighteen thirty one while the family was visiting Burlington, Vermont from their Henman details. More moves and more births for the Arthur family before arriving at the eighteen thirty four birth of William Arthur junior, and Heinsburg Vermont, at that time hinman claimed the family decided to drop the William from their oldest son's name William Chester Alan Arthur, making him just Chester Alan Arthur, hinman connected all these dots to conclude that the man the world new as Chester Alan Arthur born in Vermont was really. Early. His eldest, brother born in Quebec, so dramatic and weird. Not only that hinman contended that William Chester Alan Arthur, had decided to adopt the birthdate and birthplace of his deceased baby brother Chester able when he decided to run for president. There are some problems with Henman's account. It is cobbled together from a hodgepodge of interviews, many of them with people in their elder years, who were recalling events and baby names from about fifty years before a lot of these accounts really contradict each other, and while hinman cherry picked the ones that supported his allegations when describing what he thought happened he then included, all of them in his book, whether they backed him up or not. So you can go read all of like the totally disparate accounts of what people thought this baby's name was, and when he was born in his explanation, so sort of the summary portion of this book, it is often, not clear, whose account hinman is referring to and in some spots. He doesn't seem to have a source for what he's saying at all. Maybe. Wouldn't pass muster in your journalism, one to one course now on top of that his whole argument, rests on the idea that Melvina or is there gave birth to a boy named William Chester Alan Arthur on, either March sixteenth, or eighteenth of eighteen twenty eight but we know that she gave birth to a daughter and Elisa Arthur on January, first of eighteen twenty eight the only way this could have happened would be for these two children to have been fraternal twins born eleven weeks, apart, or for Melvina Arthur, to have had to wombs and been pregnant in both at the same time, both of those scenarios are incredibly rare, and the I would have been virtually impossible, given the state of medicine in eighteen twenty eight has more likely to happen on Grey's anatomy than in the real world. Even so, though by February of eight hundred eighty one after the election. But before the inauguration papers were reporting on hinman speculations sometimes mentioning him by name and other times, not, for example, the center democrat of Bellefonte Pennsylvania published an article on February third. Eight eighty one that read, quote, it has been charged with great deliberation for several weeks, that Chester a Arthur, the vice president elect is not a native of the United States. These allegations have taken form and Affidavit's have been procured by those investigating the matter, which go on to prove conclusively that Mr. Arthur was born in Canada. Also on the third the western sentinel of Winston Salem North Carolina published. This statement quote the latest sensation. Now is that Chester a Arthur is not eligible to the position of vice president to, which he has been elected in the probability that w h English will yet be vice president six days later. The Clearfield Republican of Clearfield Pennsylvania, quote, where was he born is now agitating, the public mind. The vice president elect Chester a Arthur claims that he was born in the state of Vermont. But a little investigation seems to show that he was born in Canada. And therefore is not eligible it is queer that a sensible man cannot tell where he was born and on February twenty third in the Indiana state sentinel, quote, it seems to be impossible to find out just where Chester eight Arthur, vice president elect was born Arthur does not know he was not born where nor win, he asserts, he was born he has no proof of his native, but the Senate committee on privileges and elections have come to the conclusion that he was born in three towns and all within the United States that will do, so I did not actually find evidence that the Senate committee on privileges and elections had come to that conclusion at all and the national Republican called the report that the committee was looking into. To it and idiot LA I also to be clear. These newspapers all had their own political slants, and some of them had initially been started to support a specific candidate or a specific party. So none of this should be interpreted as an impartial account of anything. I did for a while ago on this rabbit hole of trying to trace the political leanings of the editors of all these papers, and then I was like this is like fifteen different papers, where referring to you that's gonna take me a master's thesis. And this is a thirty minute podcast as an aside him, I'm the only one that doesn't think it would be that weird to not know where you're born. No. I think that's totally like one you don't remember. Right. And to his family was so no Matic yet. They might not even remember with any sort of clarity or consistency. Yeah. I, totally know where my, where I was born because my parents told me specifically and we lived like near enough to the hospital. I was born in that we would go pass it, and my mom would be like, that's reborn. But we'll and it was a recorded birth as well, right? Yeah. I have a birth certificate. But yeah, these are all babies who are mostly being born at home or at relatives house like in the family that we're moving around a whole lot and win babies weren't viewed with quite the same. There was not the level of preciousness, like yes, liberation. Yes. So many babies died when they were really young like sometimes people didn't even name their babies until later like it was not nearly as documented as now. So the, the fact that there was uncertainty is not really a strange. No. I don't think so either James Garfield was inaugurated as president on March fourth eighteen eighty one and at that point, the chatter about where Arthur was born seems to have quieted down, at least as far as what was being printed in newspapers. But after Garfield was shot by Charles j guitar. So the question took on a renewed urgency, and we're going to talk more about that after we have another little sponsor break. This episode is brought to you by joi bird. 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