Producer, Melody, Jesse Shatkin discussed on The Blog of Author Tim Ferriss


Countdown together. So if you just press play three minutes to midnight, it's like I will never play the song and it's Silly and fun and I'd met one. I almost freestyle the entire thing. So yeah. Some days I'm very formulaic and somedays not as somebody's people give me very specific. You know what they want for an antisocial. In of a movie what they need or you know or you know what reaction is looking at the moment sound, she's a war he is attracted she really likes the United. Sometimes I get direction and I take it I just take it and I I don't work so much with artists anymore but it was so helpful to work with artists because like. I am really good at like being of service. So I could totally eight sheet sandwiches island like if I were like divas or whatever, and because I knew, I would still be getting sixty percent or thirty cents or whatever of the publishing. Dissuade them arm saying something extremely silly or a bad. Then I've done my job but you now that if they wanted to sing a song about something that I found Bonello stupid. That that was fine the I'm just there to support what they're trying to do and. I'm out challenged him some degree. It's very, very bad but otherwise, I'm just but that was really helpful to me because of that helped me, I think in terms of becoming a direct director. Right. Ryan redoubling and talk about that I for I wanNA, pause bookmark for a second for people who don't understand the Peculiarities or the intricacies of the the music business and he said the percentage is a publishing. Can you explain what that means for folks? Just they understand how different people make money in the music world? Yes. Publishing's really the only growth touring. If you're a called play, you might money. Oh, you too. But touring usually musicians will might loss. Side really only march she can sometimes make money but really the best way to make money in music if you're going to be in addition is to write as it and so. From is as pop split snus Irvine slits. And I can tell you that saw I guess in Flint is like whoever's in the room? Or whoever does one tiny word or something against tweeting you Really I think I think that's an sleep but I don't do that. And it was really funny because Betty Blanco like right me. It was like, why don't you? Why don't you? He's a producer heeds that what he did a whole bunch of. Hits he's disrupt seats. Law Hits Law. His will be stopped counting after he had ten top number one to me. Anyway, he was. He was riding the news like, why are you? Because he was working with a partner on producing a song and I'll I believe that if Iran melody and the top line I get jeep was in his law if you write the cards, you get fifty percent of the song and do the production you get paid for your. Separately aside from getting paid for the writing. So a producer producer, they sisal might thirty forty grand for producing a song that means for using his main. Putting all of the sounds in all of the piano sale via violence sound Gora or the the vice in the end debate that skulk production. songwriting prices literally just courts. And Melody. And lyrics. So cords are worse fifty percent of publishing. and. Lyrics and melody are worth fifty percent publishing. And then if you go on producing, you get a fee for producing. So I'm sorry lackey I wrote the courts to Chandelier. Can you explain what that means because I think cores I think strumming like a C.. Or A D. on a guitar but I don, I don't know if I'm thinking of the same thing. About it like it's so is I. Guess It's On Piano. And they make court and so. I'm doing I'm doing the knowledge of. Be like. that's four different like and then for different nights. I and then you you give that to the producer they put it. They take that they put it in just since you mentioned the the piano. and Near. That Chandelier I did again, right reports. But I then I sent them to Jesse Shatkin and I said You Mike Song out of this unheated production and Nice. Guy Twenty five percent of the publishing. But I'm I'm not required to do that like I could have one hundred percent of the song and paid him his production. Forty thousand volts let's say. And Melody is the sound of the voice or the and. That's just. Don't know whatever like. Yeah. It's fast melody and then. Once, you add lyrics to that. Top One. Mellon weather is called top line. Got It and so I am I talk line Ryder but. Now I guess I mostly I can write some chords I'm pretty shabby at it but I do. Do plenty clang ally on piano or occasionally in send Jesse like videos of me playing the piano is like he can see which ones I'm playing. A. Songs out of those and I am because I appreciate he. Couldn't do it without him I always even for any five cents. But again in.

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