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Has On is a staff writer for the Atlantic who covers health and science? She says she knows hand about being weird. She grew up a Russian, Jewish, immigrant in a small conservative town in Texas and her outside identity stayed with her. In seven years of writing about weirdness, she says she has come to realize that there are unexpected upsides that her weirdness is in part responsible for her success. So when you think about being weird, you think about it more in terms of being a misfit in your context than having just quirky qualities as a person. I really struggled with how to define weirdness for this book, because there's the research on weirdness, but you're right. It does tend to focus on like the person who was wearing a red jacket instead of the black jacket, but I wanna do focus on something that was more consistent, so I wanted to focus on people who were different from everyone. Everyone else around them as opposed to just had a quirky hobby, because if you think about it, if you have a quirky hobby like writing a unicycle, you could join a club of UNICYCLISTS and suddenly not be weird anymore. In fact feel very comfortable and not alienated at all, so I didn't WanNa pick something that was just generally thought of as unique. I wanted to pick something that was more enduring obviously right now we have a ten polarization in the US in a lot of right versus left conflict, and some of the people that I interviewed for the book, actually were trump supporters who moved from California to Texas that they could be more accepted by. Trump supporters and they felt like you know if they were wearing trump, t shirts, or praying or something like that openly in California that they wouldn't be accepted, so actually hooked up with this organization called Conservative move, which helps Californians moved to Texas, so they can be with other Republicans. It sounds far fetched, but it's actually now like a business model, so you interviewed some really fascinating people for the book. I would love to hear in particular about an Amish Woman that you wrote about Emma Amish Woman that I interviewed grew up in this really conservative Missouri Community, and if you WanNa, be amish you have to. To buy in to the idea of being honest, it is not like a half-hearted thing. You basically are educated through eighth grade. Then you stop going to school and if you're a woman, you have babies with a guy who is one of five boys that you can choose when you're sixteen to Mary, and you basically Cook and clean for the rest of your life and Babysit. She looked at that future and she was like I don't want to do this. It's not just the technology thing. It's not just the like farming lifestyle that doesn't appeal. It's like I don't want my opportunities to be this limited. She always felt this feeling of doubt inside of her. So when she was sixteen or seventeen, she just walked out of her family's farmhouse, and she had smuggled a cell phone and used it to call this friend of a friend who basically took her down to Texas to South Texas where they happen to live, and she kind of started life all over again. She was a US citizen who didn't speak. English because they speak Pennsylvania Dutch. She didn't understand any social rules or norms. She was completely alienated from the Internet technology how. People interact on a day-to-day basis, and it really just goes to show how awful it can be both to feel like an outsider in your community, but then even when you try to break out of that community and be more free or join a different community that period of transition is still. Still really difficult. So what did you learn from her? About coping with being outside or going from being an outsider in one context to then living that in another, she really was one of the most difficult stories in the book. She had one of the rough times, but I found that she really use this strategy of changing the way she thought about being an outsider. It went from being where she was trying to hide that she was Amish or apologize for. For it especially among the modern Americans or whatever you WANNA call them that she was meeting. She kind of reestablished herself. She had to kind of learn to think about her outsider dumb in a new way in a more positive way, so she now is out. She's like a normal twenty-something, so she's dating and meeting people and she has to be like look being amish, having this extremely traumatic and difficult thing that I went through made me who I am it's. It's not the entirety of WHO I am. You can't make amish jokes about me because that's not cool but I'm now tougher and stronger. Because I went through this, and once she started asserting herself in that way. Things got a little bit better for her than when she was apologizing for her differences. 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