FLU, Phil Persimmons, Chia discussed on KFBK Garden Show
Ornamental for our area for a November December harvest are persimmons. And there are a lot of great persimmon varieties out there, and it's a very versatile fruit as well. We're talking with Phil per cell of Dave Wilson, nursery and Phil persimmons. I guess could be divided into two categories the astringent and the non astringent talk a little bit about the non astringent varieties, such as the foo those are the type that you can just go ahead and pick right off the the tree and eat them. As is like the flu. Apple types. These stringent are the ones that you you need to have completely ripen or they give you a a really bitter taste and for people who are wondering if they're at the store or farmer's market, and they see two distinctly different persimmons. Chances are that one is non astringent, and the other is probably a stringent is -actly. So kind of like the classic non astringent is the Fuyu persimmon shit like an apple it's flatter. And it's it's hard in the astringent is the most common one is the high Chia and that one is oblong little bit bigger. And that one needs really to the soften completely before. It's a powerful and some of the techniques used to soften the Chia that I've seen her people hanging them on clotheslines. Sure. Yes. So how'd she is one where it's you know, what they do is they hanging on clotheslines idea. Also PM to to to kind of cure them that way, my mom, she's Japanese. We would throw them in the freezer, and that that would work or just let him sit out and just let them softened up the California, rare fruit growers in their descriptions about persimmons make mention that with the Chia or other astringent varieties that if you peel them and sliced them dehydrate them. They actually will be sweet now, I've never tried that. But if you want to experiment and sort of avoid the puck arenas of an astringent present. And you might try that definitely I've never tried it before and your description of a stringent persimmon is perfect unless you really really case it in the stringent that the Hucker nece is the bitterness is unbelievable onto softens. It is a sweet as can be. So it it's a it's a very unique flavor difference between the two. There are a lot of great recipes online for working with persimmons, especially the non astringent varieties like the food. They make delicious cookies. You can dry them, and they're a tasty treat and the just a lot of great ways to use that non astringent persimmon, including just eating it raw. Right. It's. You know, like right now at the nursery are are who you presented are devoid of of leaves? Right. They've gone through their beautiful, orange coloring. I'm looking at one right now. And it's just it's we have a complete deciduous tree. And is just loaded with the orange fruit. Just like, you know, little ornament hanging out there. And what we do during this time of year when we're out digging our trees, look you want a snack. We just go up to our food use. It can write off the tree eat them in. It's it's you know, they're delicious. It's sort of like a Christmas ornament. All the fruit hanging on the trees and the birds would appreciate it to L A. Sure. Yeah. Absolutely. So what are some of the other non astringent persimmon varieties in the Dave Wilson catalog that people might enjoy trying some of the other ones there's the giant blue which is a it's just a larger Fuyu persimmon? I personally don't think it's quite as Stacey. As the regular Jerrell. But you know, the name giant for you people like one that's really become popular and simply because of the size of the tree doesn't get quite as big as a regular flu is the EU. So some people kind of think of it as a a dwarf tree. The fruit comes on sooner than the flu you in the tree itself. Just because of its growing habits is relatively smaller. Tree something that we really liked it. You know, very unique is the is the coffee cake persimmon, it's a non astringent. But it does need a pollen is or Napoleon is our for the coffee cake is the chocolate percent. But the cost is the best way to describe the pace is it's it's almost like cinnamon swirl type of flavor, and it's it's really unique in like you say it's really early. So it's much sooner than the regular months sooner than the regular flu things caution. Kate is you know that it's been Holland is win. The flesh itself is kind of marble light Brown orange. If it has not been pollen is the flesh is just the he'll look like a regular fleet persimmon you bite into it. It becomes a stringent. It's kind of a unique one where you don't need it. Let it soften. But it needs to be pollen is, but the flavor is really a very unique. Type of sympathy street type of flavor now you mentioned the coffee cake persimmon that it needs the chocolate persimmon as a pollinator any other varieties work as a pollen is her for the coffee cake. We refined that chocolate works the best. You can have a flu. And it'll do a kind of a marginally job in the reason being is us. Have very few male flowers, and that's why don't get seeds in them because there's very few male flowers. So if you use that or the coffee cake. It just doesn't do a really good thorough Java polonizing. So that's why we like to tell people it's best for the cops. They have the chocolate go with it. Now, you mentioned another wonderful point about the food you persimmon, it is seedless, and it sell fruitful as many varieties of persimmons ourself fruitful. And I think that's why the food is so popular because of the lack of seeds which can be rather daunting in some varieties. Yeah. Absolutely. Let's put it this way, we grow a lot of a lot of seven seventy five percent of all the girl or in the other twenty five or broken up between high. The other fried. So it's the most popular and the other thing about persimmons is that I'm telling you for a tree, it is doesn't get insects. Doesn't get any type of diseases. It's it's it's pretty, you know, low maintenance loves the valley can take a lot of coal and United say, edible ornamental. I'm looking at like I said I'm looking at a full year right now. And it is just it's there little ornaments on a dormitory, and even though it can tolerate a lot of cold. It doesn't need that many chil- hours maybe one hundred or two hundred chill hours during the winter of temperatures. Thirty two and forty five. Yeah. So so the unique thing is that it does well down southern California on the coast in near also do well in the foothill. So it's.