President Trump, Congress, Kentucky discussed on Ron Paul Liberty Report
Hello everybody and thank you for tuning into Liberty Report with me today is Daniel McCallum our co host Daniel. Good to see you this morning this morning. Dr Paul Good. It's a good day today because we have a special guest and think need about our guests. Thomas Massie he's well known for being you know real believer Iran Liberty. But he's also believe in being a little bit Abate yes sometimes. People get too downbeat over because it deserves to be down. Be But Thomas. Welcome to our program today. Hey thank you ron. Thanks for having me on wonderful I wanNA start off with You know our history. Of course I knew you you before you were elected to Congress and we served together for two months for seven weeks so excited to sit next to try to. There's some liberty to do it on my own. Yeah but you know. There's there's one thing that I want to caution you about you know before you came. It didn't happen happen because that was such a short time when both the people would come up to me. And say Ron. You are the best congressman there is and I'd always say well you have to consider the competition. So that's why I'm GonNa tell you. You are the best congressman but you have to think what about my competition right. They say when you get elected to Congress you pinch yourself and wonder how you got there and after a couple months and you meet your colleagues you start wondering how they got there. Well I'll tell you one thing that you really really. We wonder if he ever when you become a candidate for president you go and you run into a six eight ten fifteen candidate or look at the Democratic Foreign Group right now and you say and you get to know a little bit when you're on debates with have been talked to him the light. What are these people are going to be pressing the United States? I used to think that there's no way individual like me or somebody else could be present but when I looked at them boy what a difference people shouldn't be reassured they know some of them Personally but yeah. That's a that's a good argument for smaller rest intrusive government because these folks are angels. They're not savant. There's nothing remarkable about them. They have the same witnesses that everybody else has. And that's why we shouldn't let them run our lives but you know what it does. It invites the enthusiasm for or something you deal with an idea with and that is messy. Because you're still on the road and you helped so many people. You've helped us out and conferences so that that is where the real issue is changing people's attitudes and minds you know it isn't those members of Congress that we run into it's It's the people in the universities. Universities that people in the media and all the people who've learned economics badly on the people for academic reasons and propaganda reasons endorsed type of foreign foreign policy and of course the monetary policy. So the action is. I've always thought the action is outside of the politicians. But I used that as a forum. And you do that so well well too because people know your beliefs and And they know that you have conviction in which direction you WanNa go and obviously that what is clearly for less government. Yeah and you know. Even though the whole thing is rigged at times they won't yield you even thirty seconds to join the the debate sometimes there is a democratic feature of the House of Representatives whereby anybody can go to the floor of the House for one minute and speak at new. ooh right and most of these other congressmen used that one minute to congratulate sports team or something back in the district. And that's fine but I like to use those one minutes to the advocate for saying foreign policy or less intervention for smaller government and those sorts of things. But at least we can still go to the floor As members of Congress Chris and give a speech and get that out there and be the voice that some people don't hear these presidential debates don't hear from their own congressman right Daniel. Now those one minutes great Mr Massey. There there's something for the permanent record as they say I'm tempted. I was thinking about. You know we're so happy to have you on the show all the things we could talk about and I hate to start with something. That's neither political nor dealing with policy. But I can't resist one of my favorite documentaries of all time. Time is the one that Matt Kimmy did about you in the off the grid with Thomas Massie and I've recommended it. It's so many. Dozens of people have watched it probably twenty times. I I suggest half hour you'll spend I think but I can't resist asking you now a couple of years on after the film's been made you refer to the House that you've built by hand literally you know minding your own rocks as the Shire and I was just going to ask you how things are at the Shire these days a couple years after Matt's documentary this showers running time today. I just came from my house off the grid after Dr Four Miles to get on the grid and join you in the studio but The Sun was a shining yesterday. So we're excited about that. We're using our would gasify boiler basically takes word turns into a gas and then burns it in a very clean process. That's heating our house Since we made the documentary of made some upgrades for instance. I added some solar panels that are vertical. So that when it snows here in Kentucky you don't get much of that in Texas but when it snows in Kentucky the snow doesn't accumulate on those new panels and I- upgraded our battery. I had this Brunch of clunking. Clunky lead acid batteries in my basement. Instead I I've now found a battery from a wreck model as Tesla I took it apart and rewired it for forty eight volts reprogrammed it and it's running our house today. That's amazing wonderful. The walk and talking to. Yeah well I have I have I have a question on what's going on in in public right now and we'd like to keep up with all the events and the biggest event right now is corona virus and it's it's significant because there's a lot of strong feelings in both directions you know it's the end of the world in the other is a a bad cold and by now. You probably have been asked about that. Have you been asked about the corona virus and what one must do and whether or not there should be corn warranties or has the subject come up with any of your media well It's not come up within my media. I think people are trying to gauge H.. How seriously to take it you know? We had the abol a scare in the swine flu and the bird flu and all these other Plagues that we're going to decimate somme the population CERTA speak I think it's I think it's good to be cautious I think also at the same time. You can have more more casualties from overreacting so I'm paying close attention to the reports that that were getting and You know we need to understand how the virus spreads before we start trying to figure out how to keep it from spreading and It's a new virus in it behaves new away and I think that's what's bothering people the most well. I think what I sense from. Your statement is a medical statement. I do no harm in politically officer. You're the doctor. The politicians don't follow much. I do know they wouldn't have anything to do. You know that. Okay Daniel actually. The political equivalent of that is never let a good crisis go to waste. Washington is probably say. But you know Mr Mass. You've I've been very vocal about this piecemeal business and I've seen a couple of great floor speeches and I've seen some great statements. In fact I think one of the best tweets I've ever seen which captures the whole thing. Just a couple of words. If withholding foreign aid is an impeachable offense. Why did Joe Biden threatened to do it? You know so simple. Why is no talking about Brag about your brag about? What's your take on these are these are? That's just a simple question that I get from my constituents and after the tenth when asked asked me that I decided you know I should tweet that the other thing. They asked me as if they're accused the president of using his official capacity to harm one of his opponents in the next selection. Why are these Democratic senators who are running for president using their you know official capacity to damage his reputation? I do have to You know Congratulate Tulsi Gabbard for at least voting present and not voting. Yes or no on the peach Melba jam when it was in the house because she she is running for president and I think it really is hypocritical for them to to try to damage the president by the way. Even Nancy Pelosi said. This should be bipartisan. But the only thing. That's bipartisan about. This impeachment is the opposition to it Every Republican and some Democrats voted voted against the impeachment in the house. And I think you're gonNA see the same thing in the Senate. It'll be great when we get this behind us but you know I was on the oversight committee so I was down in the scare With Jim Jordan and Mark Meadows when Adam Schiff was having what we call the witness tryouts he would bring them in there and if they performed in a way right damaged the president he would call them above ground. You know Outside of this gift for the other hearings but while we're sitting down there I realized that the Liberals Bulls had lost their momentum. It turns out things like universal background checks and red flag. Laws are gun control. That they were pushing rushing. I was thankful that they've lost their momentum on that so if there's one small silver lining in this whole impeachment sham. It's it's what I think. Nancy Pelosi knew in her heart. Art Number One It stopped their momentum in their agenda. That number two. It's going to hurt him at the ballot box. Because American people see through it. You Know Kentucky. He is a state that Sometimes Statewide Democrats For various reasons. And it's a little more complicated than just saying Republican Democrat but but How the higher this Kentucky come down now on impeachment if if somebody like you to use suffer or do you benefit by taking your position impeachment? My constituents have tuned out to out a long time ago. Most of them turned off the TV on impeachment. When the president released the call transcript of his call all with the president of Ukraine? CEO Here in Kentucky Sobat like the Mueller Report. It's a big nothing burger for the most part of of course I. There are some Democrats who are excited by impeachment and the prospect of overturning. The last election that even most of the Democrats that's and nearly all of the Republicans in Kentucky are against impeachment. What was speaking of politics? Let's turn a little bit to politics politics. If you don't mind we were a little surprised to see that you picked up a Republican challenger and I don't know how much if any you WanNa talk about it but it is. It is kind of interesting. Whoa what happened? What's going on down there when you know? I've been blessed to go eight years without a serious primary Challenger Since I won my first election but that hasn't kept the establishment from trying to recruit somebody and every year. They've nearly recruited somebody but the person backs out on them in the last second will this year they got somebody to actually put his name on the ballot and ironically he started out by his campaign. Started out the by saying that I wasn't supporting the President Enough You know I'm going to be a delegate most likely for for the president in the upcoming reelection I was a delegate at the RNC for him in the last election. I'm on I'm a CO chair of his reelecting Kentucky so I found it somewhat ironic but there is a website run by. ABC News called fivethirtyeight that tries to gauge. Based on your votes folks whether you're for the president or against the president and they give you some kind of score and I went and looked at that and every omnibus bill every debt limit. And every CR. You're if you didn't vote for them. They said you were against the president because he ultimately signed it every time you send arms to Saudi Arabia if you vote against is that if you voted against the feis accord I found seventeen votes where they said I wasn't with the president because I wouldn't vote reauthorized the court that spied on him because I wouldn't vote to send arms to Saudi Arabia and because I wouldn't vote for all of this All the debt limits and the horrible omnibus he was basically strong armed into signing..