Randi Weingarten, Janice, President Trump discussed on Politico's Off Message
Welcome to off message. I'm Isaac there. Basically, Betsy DeVos is dismantling the entire civil rights commitment in the education department that has been there since Lyndon Johnson. So she's she's in the midst of dismantling all that. And the second thing, what it means is that if I am a kid in in Texas and I think that something has happened to me that you know, has been terrible that I'm not getting a decent education and somebody right next door who happens to be of a different color is I used to be able to go to the education department and say, something's wrong here. Today's guest Randi Weingarten president of the American federation of teachers main teacher's union and one of the more prominent labor leaders in the country. I've known why garden since she was the head of the United federation of teachers unions, New York chapter, and I was covering politics. New York. She was big part of the debates over charter schools and teacher tenure, Mike Bloomberg takeover with authority for the city school system from the way it had been to that point and is in most other places with the state government in charge, how big of a political force, what she well, when Hillary Clinton left her Senate seat to be secretary of state in two thousand nine Weingarten was given serious consideration in some telling was one of the finalists for the appointment which ultimately went to Pearson gillibrand that didn't work out for her, but not long after she moved to Washington and took over the national union in an office that has a straight shot view of the capitol dome right up New Jersey avenue, which is where we sat down. She started off by showing me a big blown-up paragraphs. She'd written which she said she'd come up with on Martin Luther King junior weekend this year. But I reminded me that of course, she'd been a social studies teacher for six years herself. Here's the quote, the two thousand eighteen election's have taken on an urgency. I have never experienced in my lifetime. It is not simply a fight for fairness or Justice or policies. We champion for working folks. Our families, we must be a check and balance for our democracy and for society that a safe welcoming insane. We must fight the anti-democratic nativist, racist incompetent, oligarchic authoritarian, and cruel, instincts and actions of this president and his cronies and associates simply want an intolerant divisive gilded age society. It is a witch side of you on moment. I point to that to her. A lot of that is outside of the purview of unions, but not to her to her. It's a simple proposition. It's a problem for her giving the Trump administration's approach to organize labor and the long-expected Janice decision from the supreme court that came down in June, which made it so unions could enforce non-members to pay dues to support collective bargaining. That's basically the union making an overall deal about salaries and benefits with the government. Janice was a major blow to unions and one, the President Trump and his supporters were very happy about not just because it changes the kinds of agreements that can get made. But because it also eliminates a lot of the money that they felt was going in to subsidize political activity from the unions. And of course they felt that was going for Democrats, Weingarten hated the decision, but insisted that there's a silver lining and the way you'll hear her spell it out. I think it parallels what I've heard from a number of other union officials and other Democrats, variety of topics. Essentially, Trump's presidency is a clarifying moment, figuring out what's true here and what spin is why I wanted to talk with her, especially as we head into this first election cycle post Janice, but with already some elements of the story that make it a not necessarily simple narrative, like Missouri, a state where Republicans are hoping for one of their main Senate pickups this year against Claire mccaskill that is under heavy Republican control. But in August voted by referendum to take down the right to work law that had been passed by the state legislature and signed by the now former governor remember to subscribe and rate us on apple podcasts or Stitcher, or however you're listening, we're lining up the fall schedule now for those last couple of weeks until the midterms. So let me know who you'd like to hear Email me with that and on your other thoughts at Isaac, politico dot com, and follow me on Twitter at Isaac, dove. There. And now my conversation with Randi Weingarten..