FIA, Red Bull, Aston Martin discussed on The Autosport Podcast


Aerodynamic testing reductions after striking an agreement over its breach of Formula One's budget cap last year. The FIA revealed after the Japanese Grand Prix that both Red Bull and Aston Martin were in breach, putting them at risk of sanctions, Red Bull have fiercely denied that they broke the budget cap, but they did enter talks with the FIA to reach a settlement. Today we find out what exactly are the four financial and sporting penalties dished out. How it will impact Red Bull on the track, and what it means for teams who might breach the cost cap in the future. Let's get up to speed with auto sport dot com's editor, Hayden Cobb, Hayden, welcome back to the podcast. Thanks very much for having me. It feels like it's been a long time, so it's nice, nice to be back. How are you doing? Oh, good, normally it's on a Sunday Night show doing a race review, but this week we've got Luke and codders. We've sent them to Mexico, enjoying the 6 hours. Although not Luke, he stayed out there. He's fully acclimatized now. He is, you know, slightly sleepy on the first couple of days, but let's get into it. Look, this is huge news. Every F one team has a budget cap for the team. Things like engine program, from 2021. They did do a dry run before it. I've seen some people saying, well, this is the first time we've done it, you know, it's probably Red Bull fans, obviously saying, well, you kind of got to give them some leeway. There was a practice run as it were. So it was the first time yes last year it was being done for real. Following Japan, we found out Red Bull and Aston Martin were in breach. What's been the timeline since then? So yes, so both teams had basically the opportunity to either go into what is loosely called an agreement breach where they sort of negotiate if that is the right word of what the penalty would be with from the FIA or the second road in that fork is basically to fight it and state their case. But both teams were winning and offering to go into the agreement breach pathway. So therefore they went into talks with the FIA on what sort of penalties they would be facing. And yeah, so yeah, we'll just quickly recap that it was minor spending breach by Red Bull, which was under 5% of the total budget cap. And for Aston Martin, it was a procedural breach. So different types of breaches there. And Williams had one of these already earlier in the year. They did. They were late with submitting some paperwork during the year and they got a $25,000 fine, I believe that's off my head. So that sort of where the ballpark was looking for procedural breaches where Aston Martin but rebel, obviously in a whole new world of actually breaking the cost cap. And so we got to the United States Grand Prix when talks were ongoing. But they were on Red Bulls behalf at least they were paused after the death of Dietrich's manager. And then resumed as a approach to the Mexican Grand Prix. And as of yes, Friday morning in Mexico, the penalties were announced and the full reasons behind it, and that's where we are right now. We finally got news of Red Bull's punishment. It's both financial and sporting, which I partly mentioned in the intro, but can you fill us in on what Red Bull are facing and what the FIA have imposed on them? Yeah, sure. So starting on the financial, it's the $7 million fine fixed fine paid. Within 30 days to use the axial reading, but paid now. It sounds like last time I got a speeding ticket. It does feel like, oh, there's to get that included, but you know, it's always important for the details. So that's the financial side of it. The sporting side of it, which is probably the more crux and the key of it for Red Bull's point of view is a 10% reduction on their aerodynamic testing. That's both wind tunnel and CFD time. And we already have this sliding scale of restrictions on aerodynamic testing, whereby the teams that are the most successful of the year before have less percentage time to those at the back. With the idea of bringing the grid together. So as Red Bull are world constructors champions, this this year, they were already getting the least amount, which was going to be 70% of the 7th place team. Hope you're heating up with me at home. So working out the maths of the 10% reduction, it actually means they're now on a 63 percent of their aerodynamic testing time. Now let's compare that to Ferrari who, if they hold on to second place this year off the compared to Mercedes, they'll get a 75% of the 7th place team. So it's a considerable margin that they have lost and. There's no two ways about it, but is it enough? Is it strong enough is it? That's the sort of debate that is going to rage on simply and probably ask different people and they'll give you different answers. It's very Formula One thing in true Formula One style to make something massively complicated, but yet they picked 7th place in the constructors championship that gets that's like the baseline and the hundred you're listening and thinking like there's more than 7 teams. That is the baseline. So if you finish 8th, 9th, tenth or more teams enter, for instance, with new engine regs doesn't look like it, but if there's an 11th team, you actually get more. So you get a 105, 110 115 percent. But then it works its way down, so 6th, 5th, fourth, as Hayden's mentioned, a reducing sliding scale. But yeah, 7th place is the benchmark, the baseline in terms of. And it actually kind of gets rejigged halfway through the season as well, but that's a very Formula One thing to make something that could be easy to understand and really over complicate it. Listen, couldn't Red Bull appeal this. No, as we said earlier, because it was an agreed a penalty that they went into talks with the FIA. There's no sign away there. They're right to appeal. They agreed to the penalty. So that's them done and that's the same with Aston Martin. So no, that will be the penalty in its entirety. Unless there's further breaches to come next year, which I'm sure all teams will be aware of not doing. That will be it in terms of what penalties will be felt for the 2021 season. So when the obvious question is, I think I should ask this on behalf of many of our listeners.

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