Taylor, Atari, Today discussed on FOCUS on POCUS



Will they be good. Absolutely will they be able to interpret images acquire images and sufficient manner. I think so but what we are really trying to get at with focuses developing a mastery of this in the same level mastery expect our physicians to use the stethoscope or The physical exam. Yeah yeah i. I believe that in plus you know i remember when you turn in your studies for the day usually get beat up or you get code. Pretty bad about yourself. You know if you do this april when it's it's laying flat. I need to go more laterally and you know in us kind of sit down and review in those images helps a lot. I wonder So the Going further the current methods we use to promote competency or or a credit. Someone important character sound. Are they not optimal or complete. I think when you look at national organizations there is often multi components to it. There's not just lectures and bedside scanning With the standardized patient there's also image review real time scanning feedback with real patients For instance the society possible medicine does something like that. And you also look at Ac jamie requirements for emergency medicine. There's a lot more. Strict criteria of what these residents graduating residents need to be able to do when they go out into to practice. And so i. I wouldn't necessarily say the whole system is broken but what i would say is on a more local level a lot of institutions residency programs. Medical schools are thinking of creating own pocus curricula and they may follow a model that includes lectures a little bit of scanning and personalized advice. And that's it and what we're trying to show is that they may not be sufficient and Trains may have a hard time. Actually gauging their confidence in their ability to perform pocus. Well so you think maybe like almost like In the trades you you're a journeyman in your attached to a mentor. Who am master craftsman. Who brings you along and makes comments side by side. So something like that. Where you get immediate feedback. Yeah i if you think about the development of expertise not just in medicine if you look expertise across many realms there is often a mentor mentor relationship. That's part it's Carpenters being a great example. Taylor's being Other old examples in medicine if you think about internship residency back is in a way and apprenticeship learning under a senior physician. I think we should be doing the same thing for pocus where we have experienced clinicians with pocus who are helping to guide more junior users. The challenge with that is not a lot of people are familiar with focus and a lot of our Older physician population is not well versed in it and that represents a huge gap that needs to be thought about carefully absolutely. I remember that in the sim center. Everybody who grew up with any kind of atari or gaming was really good with the simulators and then attending they would come in and kind of like kind of the more the boomer generation in like How you turn it on. What are you plug it in. You know just to me for my study to look at How well people can play call of duty and acquired. Yeah so you have a good. Maybe internal med pocus story life. Saving you know Something recent that really stuck out. Maybe why you were rounding jail rounding or i know you guys are doing a lot with long your paper and covert and stuff maybe have an interesting climate clinical story to lay on us today..

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