Newsome, Orange County, California discussed on All Things Considered
Thank you so much. By the way you can sign up for the neighborhood newsletter over it. X TOWN l A. That's X. The letter x t o w n dot l A From hyper local news to the Big California political picture, and it has a big connection. Toe Orange County with everything else going on pandemic and vaccines, impeachment You may not have the news bandwidth for the effort to recall California Governor Gavin Newsom. But there is a campaign there to do just that, a campaign that claims to have collected more than 1.2 million signatures. It's being driven mostly out of O. C. Sounds like it's a good time to check in with Gustavo Ariano columnist for the L A Times and every week he's here for Kcrw's warns county line. Hey, Gustavo Last Dave, This is a recall campaign with a lot of fingers pointing to Orange County. Who's behind it. Oh, anyone who fits into the rogues galleries of orange can Republicans. So now you have honorary chairs ranging from the current OC GOP chair Fred Whitaker to former OC GOP chairs Supervisor Don Wagner for Miranda, Hi Mayor Curt Pringle even going back into the old school like Dick Ackerman, who used to be a state senator from Fullerton. Basically any Republican who wants to pretend that there's still something our love signing up to go after Newsome the L A Times. Gustavo over the weekend reported that the campaign quote Allied with radical and extreme elements early on to help collect signatures. What do you know about that? That they're following the Orange County GOP playbook going back to the 19 sixties. I mean, you know, the 19 sixties Birchers were the anti immigrant zealots of the nineties are the Cuban ons and, you know state's rights of today. That wasn't really surprised. It was great, You know, great coverage. Of course, by of my my colleagues at the Times Page. Think John was one of them, but it's It's not surprising at all. And of course, the leaders behind the recall will say. Well, there's not really anything we could do it. You know, we have a broad coalition of people who are supporting this recall. But of course, what they're not doing is condemning. Some of these wack of views of some of the very organizer's within the ranks is not just people signing the petition. It's actual organizer's who have some of these beliefs. Let's talk about the signing of the petition that because the group behind the effort says they have 1.2 million signatures, they need close to 1.5 million, right. But by March Are they going to get there? Because marches march 17th is the specific A. That's right around the corner. Right? Look, A lot of people do not like Newsom, and it's not just conservatives, liberals progressives. Newsome, of course, blew it for him for for himself forever when he went to the French laundry and violated well. Was it three points of his stay at home? He didn't stay at home. He Eight with people who are not members of his family. He ate indoors and he ate without a mask. Wait. That's four right there, so I wouldn't discount it. And this is the interesting thing. People have been trying to recall Newsome almost from the moment he entered office, and every all of those failed miserably. This is the one that not only has a fighting chance, but I was gonna say they're gonna make it are gonna be very, very close. I mean, the thing about it is a recall would be an off year election. Right? And people who are who have Ah, skin in the game as it were tend to do better in off year elections, then say when everybody votes right and everybody is paying attention. If it gets a recall. I do think Newsome will be recall just because he really doesn't have many fans right now. But this is the problem with that advocates for the Rico who would be his replacement because there's nobody in the GOP who could possibly win a statewide election. The closest would be former San Diego mayor cutie Kevin Faulconer, who's somewhat moderate, but I bet you if they take out new, some, you know there's gonna be a Democrat was going to be even more progressive than him. Who would beat Falconer in a heartbeat. So be careful what you wish for, as the old proverb goes because it just might come true. The Democrats were some Democrats got in trouble for calling it a coup about the time of the capital insurrection. On bear was this, You know, finger pointing, going back and forth, saying, Hey, look, You can't call that a coup This is you know, the initiative and referendum process is legal in California and you can recall. Ah, Governor should should that be necessary. I wonder how seriously Democrats are taking this They're starting to take it seriously. I mean, and calling it a coup was just absolutely dumb. And it's typical Democrats underestimating their opponents, overestimating their abilities and then shooting themselves, not just on the foot, but also on the tongue as well. So Newsome is saying, I'm not even focusing on that. I'm just focusing on Corona virus or whatnot. But you're starting to hear the chatter. People are knowing that okay, this is gonna get close. So we got to govern a little bit better or at least a decent not at the French laundry anymore. You think this is the reason why we're seeing the state drop The stay at home orders. Oh, yeah. Do you think it has to do with the fact that he has this intense political pressure? Yeah, I do Think so. I know Newsome saying, OK, we're seeing projections and cases are going down in California. They have been for the past couple of weeks, but Corona virus is still out there. Newsome needs some sort of publicity. That's good for him Any sort of publicity so Leaving it to the county is to decide whether people could dan outside. He thinks it's going to be a win win, but the people who hate him they're not gonna care. They blood is in the water for them, so they're going to go out there and just try to recall him and get him out of California politics forever. And of course, the sad part with this is that we also had this pressure during the summer. Also coming from Orange County, by the way, people protesting Against lockdowns of whatnot. Newsome somewhere unscrewed the You know the mandates And of course the cases went up. So just be careful. Knew some, you know, do not take Do not take the recall Unserious Lee. I know that's a double negative, but it's okay but.