"He found huge success off the battlefield as an entrepreneur and businessman who founded black rifle coffee, which roasts over a million pounds of coffee each year and his grossing over thirty million dollars annually. It is a great honor for me to say Evan Hefer. Welcome to first-class fatherhood. Hey, thanks for having me. Appreciate it. All right. Let's do this. How many kids do you have? And how old are they? I two little girls. One is almost five here you days and one year and a half awesome. All right. I know they're young. But are they involved in any sports or activities yet? Yeah. Yeah. Well, I mean, the the year and a half, you're all she's she's not quite as sports yet. The five year old she's. Since soccer over back riding, archery, you know as much as they can be just now turning five. So. Out there doing what her, but she does very cool. Now, are you coaching the soccer team or you cheering around from the sideline? No, I don't. I don't get kissing coach the soccer team. I'm more archery coach in the the individual sports coach the team team sports guy. All right, Evan please. Take a minute here to hit my listeners a little bit about your background. And what you do. Okay. Yeah. My name's heaven. Hey for a run a company called black rifle coffee company before that. I was in the military for several years. I worked for the CIA for several years so kind of a diversified background. We've got about one hundred thirty three employees now cross. Yeah. Bill Hennessy Salt Lake City, Utah San Antonio, Texas. Okay. Now were you still serving when you became a dad or did you leave the military and then become a father? Well. I was in the the national guard for several years leader my career. So I was still in serving. And then I was still in and working at the agency as we're can't agency and in the national guard. So I was. Classify that as government service and fatherhood. Alright. Yeah. I only ask because I'm interested in hearing the difference between serving as a single guy as opposed to serving as a father. Well, oh, my appointments were were all while. I was not a father waited until after most of my deployments for done. And I was kind of on the on my way out of military service. And then I worked in more of a para-military has the, and, but I waited till I was ready to transition out of a life of carrying a rifle for a living to life of. Well, one way or the other. I thank you for serving. And I love what your company black rifle coffee stands for and how he pushes back against political correctness. But what are some of the challenges of running such a successful business like yours with so many? You know a ton of moving parts while being a father. Well, I think the biggest challenges. The time that it takes to run a company and also be presence within your the lives of your family.."